Prime MVR Standards

Hi guys,

I've asked questions about Primes hiring process is the past, mainly employment verification. Now, however, I'm slightly concerned about my driving record even though I've already been approved for orientation. I've read in other posts/forums of the safety manager (?) Making a different decision than the recruiter and disqualifying the applicant.

If this is true, how common is it? Are the incidents on the MVR the only things considered once at orientation? Or does a background check go further back? Not gonna to lie, my first car was a BMW, and I have one now. I was very crazy with it when I first got my licence. Plenty of speeding tickets, some reckless. I have matured a great deal. I haven't got a speeding ticket since 2015. No reckless since around 2012. Only one moving violation in the last 4 years. I'm still worried because of how bad I started off. Should I be?

How long ago was the

I was very crazy with it when I first got my licence. Plenty of speeding tickets, some reckless.

? How long have you had you drivers license?

What was the moving violation in the last 4 yrs? that could matter.

No matter what we say, you wont believe us, so book your bus ticket and go. Otherwise, if you keep delaying, they will make you fill another application if you dont go within 30 days of the first one. That means those really hard employment issues all over again. Fill out a few apps over a few months and they see you as a flake and may not return your calls. Recruiters move to people who will go, not ones who just talk about it.

Look, you're trying to solicit answers from us that we simply cannot give. You seem to want a definitive yes or no on whether they'll hire you or not. The fact is, we don't know. You haven't shaped up to be the best candidate. But that doesn't mean you're out.

Have you settled any of the employment verification issues discussed in your other post? Because that can still play a big part in this. I'll use myself as an example:

My MVR could be seen as rocky at best. My last ticket was for following too closely, stemming from a rear end collision (my fault). That's a big no-no in a carrier's eyes. It happened just over 3 years prior to my application at Prime. I also had some speeding tickets from before that as well, a couple of which could be considered reckless. You'd think Prime would have passed on me.

However, my work history was impeccable. Although self-employed, I sub contracted from the same company for over 20 yrs, proving myself to be loyal, steady, and reliable.

Did that play a part in Prime hiring me or not? I'd guess so.

That's why we say they take all factors into consideration, and judge an applicant's potential on the sum of those factors. They may overlook this or that, if your overall picture looks promising.

We here at TT can't tell you what Prime will do, or how far back they'll do a background check, or how extensive that check will be. They do everything on a case by case basis. It's up to you to make yourself stand out as much as possible. This goes back to everything we told you in your other post.

For any future readers that come across this post, I'll post the link to the other thread we're talking about here:

Prime's employment verification/background

Good luck.

And this is a competition. People think they are entitled to a job as long as they meet the minimum standards. Yet some people get sent home for attitude problems.

I had 1 ticket 25 years for going 4 mph over the 35 mph speed limit. i was at my prior job for 18 years which was easily verifiable and was awarded commendations by the PostMaster General himself, and i had no criminal convictions or medical issues.

So put that record against "i cant verify my employment, I have tickets and DUIs and convictions" type of candidates and guess who gets sent home?

Honestly, I wasnt going to respond due to your negative attitude. You find problems with every solution you're given. Since Rainy & Turtle gave you their experience, here's mine.

I had 2 moving violations, 20 over the limit [reckless driving] & improper lane change. I had a criminal record with 4-5 incidents that occurred 30 years ago, I too was self employed & had to present my tax returns for prior 3 years & while at sprimo had to come up with my paychecks for Jan & Feb of that year.

I had all my paperwork with me & was able to d/l my checks from my online account. I could've very easily been sent home for any of those reasons. I busted my rear to get all my orientation requirements done in time.

Them asking me for my current job history, for only 2 months, came up on the very last day of orientation. Ok, how can we resolve this? These are my options. Presented them to my recruiter & screening personnel, problem solved.

It's not about looking for problems or obstacles, it's about being as prepared as possible & finding solutions to unforeseen issues as they come up. Trust me, you'll remember that last line for the entirety of your trucking career if you ever stop finding problems & get on that bus or find a different route like I did & fly. Once you upgrade to your own truck, they'll reimburse you for the price of the bus ticket. Well worth it, in my opinion, to avoid the greyhound [dirty dog] bus ride.

I had 2 moving violations, 20 over the limit [reckless driving] & improper lane change. I had a criminal record with 4-5 incidents that occurred 30 years ago

Smart C.... Splitter told me all of this about himself and I still agreed to training him for the 30k mile TNT portion because he had the right attitude. He admitted his faults and was eager to learn. When I explained things to him he understood and thought about it. When my FM asked me about his training and if he should upgrade i told him Splitters a hard worker. I knew he would run hard and they would both make money. He can work independently and not need to be spoon fed his daily chores.

As a trainer, I couldn't have someone like you on my truck. You would drive me crazy. If i tell you to slow down, downshift, or put your jakes on, i dont want an argument. Just reading your posts makes me feel like every little thing would be a hassle and 2 months of that in a rolling closet? ....forget it. Trainers do not have to accept students. I have refused students based on their personality and attitude. My last comment got cut off, but "Not Prime material" has been given as a reason to send people home who met all of the requirements but could not get along with others.

If someone upgrades from my truck, they go on my FMs board. There is no way in heck i would want you driving him crazy every day with your negativity and perhaps OCD. The more time you waste calling or messaging my FM, the less time he has to send me loads. Plus he would probably be like "Why did you send me this guy?" and might get annoyed with me because of it.

Orientation is just one hurdle. You are having such issues with this one basic thing. As a trainer, I would be concerned of how you handle the pressure of driving a 75 ft long vehicle in Chicago, Los Angeles or Atlanta traffic... backing across lanes of busy streets between utility poles. As a team trainer, I do sleep during portions of the student's drive shift. I wouldnt trust you enough to sleep at all.

Then there are the posts you made about "lowly type of menial jobs" no one should care about. That attitude shows you have no work ethic or pride. It shows not only did you not care about yourself or those who offered you employment, but you would have no respect for me or my personal belongings on MY truck. It sounds like you would be the type to complain if we had to shower at night instead of first thing in the morning or if you got grease on you while climbing under a trailer.

Please consider the things we have said. Go back and re read all of the treads you made over the past couple of months. Try to look at them objectively. I am not trying to be mean. But as a trainer, this is how i would see you if you behave this way in person or on the phone.

What was the moving violation in the last 4 yrs? that could matter.

No matter what we say, you wont believe us, so book your bus ticket and go. Otherwise, if you keep delaying, they will make you fill another application if you dont go within 30 days of the first one. That means those really hard employment issues all over again. Fill out a few apps over a few months and they see you as a flake and may not return your calls. Recruiters move to people who will go, not ones who just talk about it.

I've never not believed you. Any followup questions/comments are for better understanding for you all and myself. Anyway, I already had to update the application. I also just paid the admin fee...so I am now scheduled for orientation. I have backup companies in place. I just really want to be with Prime. The moving violation was the speeding ticket in 2015.

What was the moving violation in the last 4 yrs? that could matter.

No matter what we say, you wont believe us, so book your bus ticket and go. Otherwise, if you keep delaying, they will make you fill another application if you dont go within 30 days of the first one. That means those really hard employment issues all over again. Fill out a few apps over a few months and they see you as a flake and may not return your calls. Recruiters move to people who will go, not ones who just talk about it.

I've never not believed you. Any followup questions/comments are for better understanding for you all and myself. Anyway, I already had to update the application. I also just paid the admin fee...so I am now scheduled for orientation. I have backup companies in place. I just really want to be with Prime. The moving violation was the speeding ticket in 2015.

That should not be an issue at all. Its past the 3 year window they look at. Which terminal are you scheduled to attend orientation at? Seriously, consider flying instead of taking the greyhound. Especially if you can fly with Allegiant Air, Springfield, MO is their hub. It was cheaper than the bus when I flew from Florida.