CR England Trucks With Three Bunks

Zachary, I didn't approve your last comment either. I'm just not gonna have that garbage here. If you have questions you'd like to ask we're happy to answer them for you. If you want to criticize and complain then go pretty much anywhere else on the Web and join the crowd. They'd love to have you.

So........Tell us how ya really feel Brett!

Man, I'm tellin ya.......back in the day you didn't dare want to be known as a complainer. Nowadays people complain about everything! It drives me insane.

I have pictures of my great grandmother and other women working the farm fields using hand tools with infants strapped to their backs. The first part of the 20th century had the Great Depression, one of the worst droughts in history, two world wars, disease, and poverty. The safety standards were so slack that you risked your life working in factories or construction.

Nowadays if your trainer doesn't call you "sir" or the climate control is two degrees too warm you hire a lawyer, build a class action lawsuit, and blast them on Social Media. I just can't stand it.

Great stuff!!!

Our society has gotten soft plain and simple....Kids are spoilt, don't go outside to play and get dirty, stay cooped up inside either on cells/tablets/nintendos lol and allergies? OMG ! never heard of half the crap they come up with now days, and everything has to be labeled. ADHD, bi-polar, etc

Hell, we did all that fun stuff, spend summers at local school grounds, baseball field, or park pool, riding our bikes all over hell and back. ate sandwiches with dirty hands, even greasy hands older working on cars. Aint go time to worry bout washing up mom am busy ! lol

Fast food places now got "Hand Sanitizer" spots on the dang counters?? Crazy, germaphobes, and wonder why they are sick all the time... I rarely get sick, every few years, I get a head cold, some Nyquil or Vick's Vapo rub,before bed, its gone....

Seems a lot of the Millenials have this "Everyone OWES me" mentality, I shouldn't have to work too hard for it!

I totally agree with everything you said Stevo. We live in a "poor me" society now. Back in the day the complainers were the ones we tried to toughen up. Today they're being nurtured.

Being tough and proving yourself used to be a badge of honor, now they try to make it sound criminal. I heard the expression "toxic masculinity" the other day and thought that these soft, sensitive types think manly men are toxic until the sh*t hits the fan and you need someone to defend the country or run into a burning building to save people or risk their lives doing the hard, dirty, dangerous jobs that make society so easy for the Keyboard Rambos of the world who are busy typing out their mean tweets from their mom's basement. Make one of these whiners put down their keyboard and do the dirty work for themselves and they won't be talking about "toxic masculinity" any longer.

"When I was 19, two buddies and myself took off from Buffalo in an old 80's Chevy van with about $1,000 between us heading for Atlanta. We didn't know anyone, we didn't have a plan. We lived in the van in a Waffle House parking lot and landed labor jobs through a temp service for $4.00/hr. That is not a typo."

Brett, thanks for sharing that. It takes a lot for a driver to admit to bad trip planning.

Watched the video and it was interesting to see how they do the third bunk. Lot's of storage sacrificed, I guess those three people teams need to pack light.

Maybe this is a good place to ask a question I've had. I've never been in a truck while someone else was in the sleeper when the truck was moving. I've never had to use the "net" that holds the person in the bunk. What are the rules and regulations regarding sleeper berth use when the truck is in motion? And that third bunk over the seats, can someone be in that while the truck is on the road?

Watched the video and it was interesting to see how they do the third bunk. Lot's of storage sacrificed, I guess those three people teams need to pack light.

Maybe this is a good place to ask a question I've had. I've never been in a truck while someone else was in the sleeper when the truck was moving. I've never had to use the "net" that holds the person in the bunk. What are the rules and regulations regarding sleeper berth use when the truck is in motion? And that third bunk over the seats, can someone be in that while the truck is on the road?

If the truck is moving your supposed to have the net/belt on. As for regulations from the DOT on the upper bunk not sure but C.R. England company policy is no one in the top bunk while the truck is in motion on a two bunk truck, can't imagine it's different for the 3 bunk trucks.

Just so we are all clear on what is being discussed, "toxic masculinity" refers to men who see their masculinity tied to raping and/or sexually harassing women. It isn't about being a "manly man". The people who try to make it about being a "manly man" are lying to you.

A man who has to harass women, turn them into sex objects without agency or a mind of their own, isn't a real man. A real man treats people with respect. A real man doesn't need to run down others to feel better about himself.

I totally agree with everything you said Stevo. We live in a "poor me" society now. Back in the day the complainers were the ones we tried to toughen up. Today they're being nurtured.

Being tough and proving yourself used to be a badge of honor, now they try to make it sound criminal. I heard the expression "toxic masculinity" the other day and thought that these soft, sensitive types think manly men are toxic until the sh*t hits the fan and you need someone to defend the country or run into a burning building to save people or risk their lives doing the hard, dirty, dangerous jobs that make society so easy for the Keyboard Rambos of the world who are busy typing out their mean tweets from their mom's basement. Make one of these whiners put down their keyboard and do the dirty work for themselves and they won't be talking about "toxic masculinity" any longer.

Just so we are all clear on what is being discussed, "toxic masculinity" refers to men who see their masculinity tied to raping and/or sexually harassing women. It isn't about being a "manly man". The people who try to make it about being a "manly man" are lying to you.

I had heard it on a sitcom, and it wasn't used in such an aggressive way like that. It did in fact mean being a "manly man" more or less. In the New York Times a recent article said:

Researchers have defined it, in part, as a set of behaviors and beliefs that include the following:

• Suppressing emotions or masking distress
• Maintaining an appearance of hardness
• Violence as an indicator of power (think: “tough-guy” behavior)

A man who has to harass women, turn them into sex objects without agency or a mind of their own, isn't a real man. A real man treats people with respect. A real man doesn't need to run down others to feel better about himself.

Absolutely 100% in agreement about that.

I'm concerned for younger generations because of the incessant demonizing of men in our culture which has gone on for quite a long time now. I also worry about the "poor me" culture we're becoming where everyone complains constantly about being repressed, abused, or offended. We're developing an approach where you're considered boorish if you say or do anything that could possibly offend or exclude anyone. Fortunately I'm almost 50 years old so for me personally none of this is a concern. But the younger generations I worry.

There's a book I have on my wish list that I'll be reading soon called The Coddling of the American Mind: How Good Intentions and Bad Ideas Are Setting Up a Generation for Failure. The introduction reads:

The generation now coming of age has been taught three Great Untruths: their feelings are always right; they should avoid pain and discomfort; and they should look for faults in others and not themselves. These three Great Untruths are part of a larger philosophy that sees young people as fragile creatures who must be protected and supervised by adults. But despite the good intentions of the adults who impart them, the Great Untruths are harming kids by teaching them the opposite of ancient wisdom and the opposite of modern psychological findings on grit, growth, and antifragility.

The result is rising rates of depression and anxiety, along with endless stories of college campuses torn apart by moralistic divisions and mutual recriminations.

In my day it was called "spoiling" a child. Nowadays it feels like it's becoming the norm. There's no mystery in a how a person turns out if they're spoiled and soft. Life goes badly for them. There needs to be a middle ground where toughness and grit and courage are also critical traits. No one is born with courage, grit, or strong character. You have to earn those the hard way.

If our culture doesn't stop demonizing men it's going to lead to terrible consequences. The book I referenced seems to indicate that we're already starting to experience those consequences. My advice to people would be the same advice my dad would give me if I was being too soft: "Toughen Up Buttercup" or "When the going gets tough, the tough get going." He was as kind and friendly as anyone I ever knew, but tough as hell at the same time. He was a steel worker for 18 years, then a prison guard at the famous Attica Prison after the steel plants shut down. I'm thankful every day of my life that he taught me how important it was to be "a real man" - something people used to aspire to, and still should.

It’s been said that “Rudeness is a weak man’s imitation of strength”.

It’s gratifying that people on this site embrace healthy social skills and can converse in a civil way, exchange thoughts and ideas and help one another.

Men who are weak and insecure gravitate to things like sexism and racism. The word that comes to my mind when I hear “toxic masculinity “ is Macho. Of course, I also understand that it can apply to abusers and rapists. Being a real man means being kind, reasonable, hard working, self controlled. Those are real strengths, not weaknesses.