Post Trip Inspection
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Rubber Duck, I don't think the daily DVIR is a misconception (somebody correct me if I'm wrong). My company requires one and if I do forget to log one, I get a message about it promptly. Every day requirement. Must be important (it definitely is), or the company wouldn't be so strict about it.
It is required. We have an option on our people net to complete it but they prefer we complete a paper copy because they have file it in office and the driver in that truck the next day can see any issues we documented.
Please refer to this link:
It’s not an option, federal compliance.
Oh...and to Rick’s point about identifying a problem and getting it resolved while on a 10 hour break or 34 hour reset, totally 100% spot-on.
CSA:
Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)
The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle
FMCSA:
Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration
The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.
What Does The FMCSA Do?
- Commercial Drivers' Licenses
- Data and Analysis
- Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
- Research and Technology
- Safety Assistance
- Support and Information Sharing
DOT:
Department Of Transportation
A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.
State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.
Fm:
Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager
The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Absolutely GTown. The other night I had a load to pick up in Columbia MO after I delivered some of those lovely paper rolls to Belleville IL. I noticed when fueling at New Baden, IL that I had a headlight out. Was still daylight so I shut them off, drove the 20ish miles to deliver my paper and while waiting there, I swapped the high and low beams (same bulb) to get down the road temporarily, park and buy some spares. Voila! Let there be light!
But not so fast.. as I'm driving towards Columbia and it's becoming dark, I realize it wasn't the bulb, but some sort of electrical short in the headlight. I'd hit a bump and that headlight would flicker off and on. So i take my 10 hour break at the Petro at Kingdom City (22 miles from my next drop and hook , because we have a national account with TA shops. Turns out the pins were corroded where the bulb plugs in. Fast easy repair and no downtime for me.
While I prefer other truck stops, I frequently break at Petro or TA because of my companies preference for their shops... just makes it easier. We have a tire account with them too.
Drop And Hook:
Drop and hook means the driver will drop one trailer and hook to another one.
In order to speed up the pickup and delivery process a driver may be instructed to drop their empty trailer and hook to one that is already loaded, or drop their loaded trailer and hook to one that is already empty. That way the driver will not have to wait for a trailer to be loaded or unloaded.
HOS:
Hours Of Service
HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Good point, Susan. If it's not simple, like a tire or a grease job, TA/Petro shops are the place to go to for maintenance.
Am I incorrect in stating that a pre or post trip inspection, while possibly required by your employer, are not required to be logged by the DOT for any length of time or need to be a pre or post. My company tells me to do a PTI (pre trip inspection) at some time during the day but some guys never do.
DOT:
Department Of Transportation
A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.
State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.
It's awesome because I park, drop my trailer and check in at the shop if anything needs attention on my truck.. even this crazy loaner truck that I'm still driving. As slow as freightliner in jeffersonville IN is, the "slug puppy" might be out of commission a few more weeks and this poor 2016 needs some TA love as whoever its been assigned to previously, didn't make sure the little things were looked after and it's showing its higher mileage. I only get to Cedar Rapids when dropping off a trainee, so TA is my friend lol. Sadly we don't fuel there very often so I do tend to pay for showers or wait and get a free one on a 30 minute break at a pilot or loves.
OWI:
Operating While Intoxicated
Am I incorrect in stating that a pre or post trip inspection, while possibly required by your employer, are not required to be logged by the DOT for any length of time or need to be a pre or post. My company tells me to do a PTI (pre trip inspection) at some time during the day but some guys never do.
Joseph, I'm not sure I totally understand your question, but yes you do need to log in pre and post trips. Current discussions indicate to me there are no specific time lines required, but the common opinion is that they need to be long enough to actually do a complete inspection.
Pre trips need to be done "Pre-Trip", not at just any time during the day, hence the term PRE-trip. If you do an inspection during the day it's called an "in route inspection".
DOT:
Department Of Transportation
A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.
State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.
Am I incorrect in stating that a pre or post trip inspection, while possibly required by your employer, are not required to be logged by the DOT for any length of time or need to be a pre or post. My company tells me to do a PTI (pre trip inspection) at some time during the day but some guys never do.
You are required to log it - but there's no specific amount of time in the regs.
Back in the days of paper logs - they only had 15 minute increments, so that was the minimum amount of time you could log for any given change of duty, which is probably where the "15 minute pre-trip" came from.
Rick
DOT:
Department Of Transportation
A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.
State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.
Joseph asked:
Am I incorrect in stating that a pre or post trip inspection, while possibly required by your employer, are not required to be logged by the DOT for any length of time or need to be a pre or post. My company tells me to do a PTI (pre trip inspection) at some time during the day but some guys never do.
Joseph please take the time to read the link I sent in this thread and also review the thread entitled pretrip.
Pretrip and posttrip is for your safety, the safety of others and operating efficiency. It’s part of your job as a professional.
My suggestion is to forget about the clock. Perform a thorough pretrip:
- Pre-Trip Inspection Study Guide
- Daniel's Pre-Trip Inspection
- Pre-Trip Inspection Checklist
- Pre-Trip Inspection Practice Questions
...and post trip focusing on the obvious like; tires, lights, any leaks, etc. Log the actual time it takes to perform these tasks and you’ll never need to concern yourself with DOT.
Pre-trip Inspection:
A pre-trip inspection is a thorough inspection of the truck completed before driving for the first time each day.
Federal and state laws require that drivers inspect their vehicles. Federal and state inspectors also may inspect your vehicles. If they judge a vehicle to be unsafe, they will put it “out of service” until it is repaired.
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
DOT:
Department Of Transportation
A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.
State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.
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Rubber Duck, I don't think the daily DVIR is a misconception (somebody correct me if I'm wrong). My company requires one and if I do forget to log one, I get a message about it promptly. Every day requirement. Must be important (it definitely is), or the company wouldn't be so strict about it.