CDL School Doesn't Teach The New Drivers Everything They Need To Know To Succeed According To Old School And Brett.
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it's folks like you I am trying to appeal to and teach, not him
That's the funny thing about Todd; he asks a lot of great questions. They're fantastic teaching opportunities or great conversation starters.
it's folks like you I am trying to appeal to and teach, not him
That's the funny thing about Todd; he asks a lot of great questions. They're fantastic teaching opportunities or great conversation starters.
Well I'm not sure about all of the questions that are asked. The answers in nearly all of the threads though are useful and helpful.
Yup, Rob I suspected it a few days ago...with the whole Pete "Large Car" rant... "Kudos" for calling him out...(PackRat must have been napping, LOL)
You think it really is Todd, or another variation?
Don't really care though ...it's folks like you I am trying to appeal to and teach, not him. Todd, Donald will never be a truck driver. You however are serious, worth the effort and have a good chance to succeed.
G-Town, thanks for the vote of confidence. As I said, I read the forum to learn from the experience of others. Your proactive approach on this thread, Old School's story about arranging a Saturday delivery, and Turtle's "early bird gets the worm" experience with his trainee, all help me think about ways to be more productive once I start driving. And let's not forget all the wonderful advice Rainy has contributed on this forum.
As David Allen Coe sings "and I'll hang around as long as you will let me."
Thanks for contributing your time, experience, and wisdom.
You think it really is Todd, or another variation?
It's Todd. I don't know all of his past names, but Cantankerous Amicus and Todd Holmes both significance in the legal profession. Todd Holmes was located in Boise Idaho, but I think he relocated to Lawton, Oklahoma.
One of his recent screen names was John Preston Bailey, who is a judge. His location was at the Motel 6 in Lawton, Oklahoma. Donald B.'s location is at an apartment complex in Lawton, Oklahoma.
I'm compiling enough data points on him to figure out his real identity. I used to do skip tracing at a previous job.
Training doesn’t make anyone a trucker. Just this week we had a young guy went through training done his 35k to 50k miles. His trainer said he was ready. Prime gave him a truck, he went to Walmart decked it all out. Plenty of pictures on fb. First load he had oil pressure problems with reefer , didn’t even know how to open door on reefer. He violated his hours two consecutive days. He was late to his 90. His second load he was posting his weights, said he had moved the fifth wheel three times and couldn’t get it right. Didn’t even know what hole his tandems were in. Prime pulled him back in to go with another trainer. He went to SLC now he wants to work at the prime terminal. Trucking career done!
Terminal:
A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.
Tandems:
Tandem Axles
A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".
Tandem:
Tandem Axles
A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".
Reefer:
A refrigerated trailer.
Training doesn’t make anyone a trucker. Just this week we had a young guy went through training done his 35k to 50k miles. His trainer said he was ready. Prime gave him a truck, he went to Walmart decked it all out. Plenty of pictures on fb. First load he had oil pressure problems with reefer , didn’t even know how to open door on reefer. He violated his hours two consecutive days. He was late to his 90. His second load he was posting his weights, said he had moved the fifth wheel three times and couldn’t get it right. Didn’t even know what hole his tandems were in. Prime pulled him back in to go with another trainer. He went to SLC now he wants to work at the prime terminal. Trucking career done!
So, the bottom line is people just fail because they are just incompetent maybe? Was the trainer incompetent? Why didn't this man not know how to open the door on the reefer? Was this man just dumb? Who was supposed to be responsible for training him this particular skill? Whose fault was the oil pressure problems? Violations? Did he even have any HOS training? Who was supposed to train him on moving the 5th wheel? What logical reason would he even need to move the 5th wheel? Did the company even test him on what he was trained before cutting him loose in a rig solo? Do motor carriers expect drivers to be miracle workers? People fail on jobs for a number of reasons: laziness, ignorance, apathy, not serious, they find out in time this whole thing turned out to be really no fun, they hate their employer or coworkers or perhaps lack of proper instruction and guidance.
When I was in army basic, I seriously had doubts that I would graduate in my third week. I had trouble with the PT part. I was no athlete. I was falling out of the formation on runs, at the double time. I had trouble with push-ups. A number of the the young men and at least one drill sergeant were telling me I would be recycled (restarted) through the basic training program all over again if I failed my PT final test or I would be put on the Dog home in shame. I asked myself what the devil was I doing here. What wildest thing did I get myself into? But when all was said and done, I did graduate through faith in God and went on to a full seven total years of honorable military service. In time my PT test scores even got decent though never maxed out.
I think I might have a ghost of a chance to make it as a driver provided I take the preferred route of company-sponsored training. The company will invest in me and make sure I know what I'm doing so I won't be as likely to fail on their time and on their dime. I do understand that companies are committed to driver success when the dump money and resources in to rearing them up. Time will tell.
If I am myself (a newbie) favoring the company-sponsored program approach, then I think this website and its various authors of articles herein are "reaching me" more than they think.
Terminal:
A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.
Tandems:
Tandem Axles
A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".
Tandem:
Tandem Axles
A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".
Company-sponsored Training:
A Company-Sponsored Training Program is a school that is owned and operated by a trucking company.
The schooling often requires little or no money up front. Instead of paying up-front tuition you will sign an agreement to work for the company for a specified amount of time after graduation, usually around a year, at a slightly lower rate of pay in order to pay for the training.
If you choose to quit working for the company before your year is up, they will normally require you to pay back a prorated amount of money for the schooling. The amount you pay back will be comparable to what you would have paid if you went to an independently owned school.
Company-sponsored training can be an excellent way to get your career underway if you can't afford the tuition up front for private schooling.
Reefer:
A refrigerated trailer.
HOS:
Hours Of Service
HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.OOS:
When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.
It's Todd:
If I am myself (a newbie) favoring the company-sponsored program approach, then I think this website and its various authors of articles herein are "reaching me" more than they think.
I'm with you Rob. He can't seem to separate himself from his style of diction. He eventually gives himself away.
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Yup, Rob I suspected it a few days ago...with the whole Pete "Large Car" rant... "Kudos" for calling him out...(PackRat must have been napping, LOL)
Don't really care though ...it's folks like you I am trying to appeal to and teach, not him. Todd, Donald will never be a truck driver. You however are serious, worth the effort and have a good chance to succeed.
Thanks. No worries.