Came Up 5 Minutes Short

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JuiceBox's Comment
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5 minutes man that sucks. Maybe the driver who isnt on that run anymore is still around and can tell you some tricks on how he used to make it work?

Susan D. 's Comment
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Hey BobCat.. if I think that area is going to be messed up, I'll generally get off I-65 at US30 and go west. Even though you're cutting through town, the traffic lights keeps things moving. Maybe you should try that. Sometimes I'll call dispatch and have them check Google commute feature to tell me if there's a backup, since I cant/wont look at my phone while driving. Worst case, you could pull into that scale if you had to wait for a tow.

Chief Brody's Comment
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Old School is the following language from the FMCSA guidance on personal conveyance maybe what creates confusion about "safe haven?" (I understand the personal conveyance rule is rather new, so it wouldn't apply to the old thread you shared).

Time spent traveling to a nearby, reasonable, safe location to obtain required rest after loading or unloading. The time driving under personal conveyance must allow the driver adequate time to obtain the required rest in accordance with minimum off-duty periods under 49 CFR 395.3(a)(1) (property-carrying vehicles) or 395.5(a) (passenger-carrying vehicles) before returning to on-duty driving, and the resting location must be the first such location reasonably available.

FMCSA Guidance on Personal Conveyance

So in my understanding, the personal conveyance would not be available to Bobcat because if he is enroute with a load this is not "after loading or unloading."

Also, its seems that each company has its own policy on personal conveyance.

I would be interested to know some of the different company policies on personal conveyance.

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

JuiceBox's Comment
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When I was at Melton the policy was 30 minutes of PC for every drive cycle. At USAL the policy is simple, no PC.

Bobcat_Bob's Comment
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Maybe the driver who isnt on that run anymore is still around and can tell you some tricks on how he used to make it work?

Basically don't run into traffic its about all I can get.

Hey BobCat.. if I think that area is going to be messed up, I'll generally get off I-65 at US30 and go west. Even though you're cutting through town, the traffic lights keeps things moving. Maybe you should try that.

I may have to try that and go over to 394 to go back north or maybe even 57. I try to avoid Ford Heights/Chicago Heights as much as possible so I hope I do not need to take it often.

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