Questions About Prime PSD Training

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RealDiehl's Comment
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I'm going to be taking the trainer class in the middle of October. Having never gone through Prime's training I'm not sure what a PSD student has learned before getting on a trainer's truck. Have they driven at all? Have they done any backing? Have they done pre trips? I'm imagining trying to teach all of these things from scratch to a student and honestly it seems overwhelming. How well does the training class prepare you for teaching a student?

PSD:

Prime Student Driver

Prime Inc has a CDL training program and the first phase is referred to as PSD. You'll get your permit and then 10,000 miles of on the road instruction.

The following is from Prime's website:

Prime’s PSD begins with you obtaining your CDL permit. Then you’ll go on the road with a certified CDL instructor for no less than 75 hours of one-on-one behind the wheel training. After training, you’ll return to Prime’s corporate headquarters in Springfield, Missouri, for final CDL state testing and your CDL license.

Obtain CDL Permit / 4 Days

  • Enter program, study and test for Missouri CDL permit.
  • Start driving/training at Prime Training Center in Springfield, Missouri.
  • Work toward 40,000 training dispatched miles (minimum) with food allowance while without CDL (Food allowance is paid back with future earnings).

On-the-Road Instruction / 10,000 Miles

  • Train with experienced certified CDL instructor for 3-4 weeks in a real world environment.
  • Get 75 hours of behind-the-wheel time with one-on-one student/instructor ratio.
  • Earn 10,000 miles toward total 40,000 miles needed.
Old School's Comment
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Haha! Typically they've never even been inside an eighteen wheeler! The very first thing you want to teach them is how many wheels are on an eighteen wheeler. Once they master that part of it you can start teaching them how to crank the engine. Yes sir! You've got your work cut out for you!

Turtle's Comment
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Hmm... well, a PSD student is basically starting fresh and brand new on your truck. The first time they take a seat at the helm of a big rig will be when they climb up into your driver's seat. You are starting them out from scratch.

They will only know what little bit they may have learned in a classroom setting, as well as some computer Sim training. That's it. The rest is on you.

Yes, it can seem a little overwhelming at first. But keep in mind that you don't have to teach them everything in one day. Feel them out to assess their strengths and weaknesses. Each student will show a different level of attention and retention. You'll have to adapt your teaching strategies to fit each one.

Being a PSD instructor is challenging, yet rewarding in many ways. You won't really know what it's like until you try it. If you haven't seen my trainer's thread, you should check it out. It might help a little.

Remember, the student will be looking to you for guidance in 3 key areas: Pre-trip, backing, and road skills. Brush up on all three before taking on a student, so you can show a mastery of what you teach.

The training class will help by showing you how Prime wants it done. But after that it will ultimately come down to just you and the student. Have fun with it.

You have my number if I can help in any way.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

PSD:

Prime Student Driver

Prime Inc has a CDL training program and the first phase is referred to as PSD. You'll get your permit and then 10,000 miles of on the road instruction.

The following is from Prime's website:

Prime’s PSD begins with you obtaining your CDL permit. Then you’ll go on the road with a certified CDL instructor for no less than 75 hours of one-on-one behind the wheel training. After training, you’ll return to Prime’s corporate headquarters in Springfield, Missouri, for final CDL state testing and your CDL license.

Obtain CDL Permit / 4 Days

  • Enter program, study and test for Missouri CDL permit.
  • Start driving/training at Prime Training Center in Springfield, Missouri.
  • Work toward 40,000 training dispatched miles (minimum) with food allowance while without CDL (Food allowance is paid back with future earnings).

On-the-Road Instruction / 10,000 Miles

  • Train with experienced certified CDL instructor for 3-4 weeks in a real world environment.
  • Get 75 hours of behind-the-wheel time with one-on-one student/instructor ratio.
  • Earn 10,000 miles toward total 40,000 miles needed.
RealDiehl's Comment
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Old school's good-natured amusement is apparent:

Haha! Typically they've never even been inside an eighteen wheeler! The very first thing you want to teach them is how many wheels are on an eighteen wheeler. Once they master that part of it you can start teaching them how to crank the engine. Yes sir! You've got your work cut out for you!

I have skimmed through your training chronicles, Turtle. Thanks. I would prefer to just start with a tnt phase student. But it's my understanding that you have to take a student through psd before you can take on a tnt student. Lots more pressure involved in psd I think.

As for training pad time, is it something you schedule? Are there full-time trainers out there helping?

Why do I want to train? For selfish reasons. The satisfaction of helping someone accomplish a difficult task. My maternal grandmother and mother were ballet instructors. My brother is a swim coach, my sister is a teacher for special needs kids. The desire to teach is in my blood I suppose. Doing it well is most important.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

PSD:

Prime Student Driver

Prime Inc has a CDL training program and the first phase is referred to as PSD. You'll get your permit and then 10,000 miles of on the road instruction.

The following is from Prime's website:

Prime’s PSD begins with you obtaining your CDL permit. Then you’ll go on the road with a certified CDL instructor for no less than 75 hours of one-on-one behind the wheel training. After training, you’ll return to Prime’s corporate headquarters in Springfield, Missouri, for final CDL state testing and your CDL license.

Obtain CDL Permit / 4 Days

  • Enter program, study and test for Missouri CDL permit.
  • Start driving/training at Prime Training Center in Springfield, Missouri.
  • Work toward 40,000 training dispatched miles (minimum) with food allowance while without CDL (Food allowance is paid back with future earnings).

On-the-Road Instruction / 10,000 Miles

  • Train with experienced certified CDL instructor for 3-4 weeks in a real world environment.
  • Get 75 hours of behind-the-wheel time with one-on-one student/instructor ratio.
  • Earn 10,000 miles toward total 40,000 miles needed.

TNT:

Trainer-N-Trainee

Prime Inc has their own CDL training program and it's divided into two phases - PSD and TNT.

The PSD (Prime Student Driver) phase is where you'll get your permit and then go on the road for 10,000 miles with a trainer. When you come back you'll get your CDL license and enter the TNT phase.

The TNT phase is the second phase of training where you'll go on the road with an experienced driver for 30,000 miles of team driving. You'll receive 14¢ per mile ($700 per week guaranteed) during this phase. Once you're finished with TNT training you will be assigned a truck to run solo.

40 Days's Comment
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Remember, the student will be looking to you for guidance in 3 key areas: Pre-trip, backing, and road skills. Brush up on all three before taking on a student, so you can show a mastery of what you teach.

As always nailed it Turtle. When I first got on trainers truck I had mastered pre trip but most in class were still not even reviewing. Was my first time in a big rig. Good luck sounds scary.

RealDiehl's Comment
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As a recent PSD student, what kind of method did you use to learn pre trip, 40? I wrote it out, section by section, several times. I'd go over it in my head during walks and before I fell asleep. It was easy once I had an actual truck to demonstrate on. Different methods work for different people. It would be useful to know how other people learned.

Were you given an opportunity to practice backing at truck stops and customers, or did you practice mostly on a pad? What did you find most helpful?

PSD:

Prime Student Driver

Prime Inc has a CDL training program and the first phase is referred to as PSD. You'll get your permit and then 10,000 miles of on the road instruction.

The following is from Prime's website:

Prime’s PSD begins with you obtaining your CDL permit. Then you’ll go on the road with a certified CDL instructor for no less than 75 hours of one-on-one behind the wheel training. After training, you’ll return to Prime’s corporate headquarters in Springfield, Missouri, for final CDL state testing and your CDL license.

Obtain CDL Permit / 4 Days

  • Enter program, study and test for Missouri CDL permit.
  • Start driving/training at Prime Training Center in Springfield, Missouri.
  • Work toward 40,000 training dispatched miles (minimum) with food allowance while without CDL (Food allowance is paid back with future earnings).

On-the-Road Instruction / 10,000 Miles

  • Train with experienced certified CDL instructor for 3-4 weeks in a real world environment.
  • Get 75 hours of behind-the-wheel time with one-on-one student/instructor ratio.
  • Earn 10,000 miles toward total 40,000 miles needed.
Trucker Kearsey 's Comment
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The class will show you the pad reference points. As Turtle.said, many people learn differently. Some.get confused if you allow them too.much real world practice then go back to the pad. some do better.

There are pad instructors who give the class who can help you and guide you. In Pittston, richard is the head, in Sprimo Dave gives the class. Richard was in sprimo.when i did mine and he is awesome. dave gave me extra backing when i upgraded to solo. poor guy was in the cold freezing.

usually you have them do 2 to 3 pretrips a day while OTR and correct them as they go or write it down to gauge them. also you get 2 days of pad time (up to 4 hours each day) to practice.

Mirrors mirrors mirrors!!! Show them exactly what they see in each mirror. We have no blind spots if used correctly. Sprimo has an industrial park next door where you can take them.bobtailing and have no traffic and show them the mirrors.

it is easier in the automatics so relax. And honestly, i would rather PSD cause TNT is sooooo long with the wrong person. plus you never sleep. And you get hi val loads which are worse. lol

Bobtail:

"Bobtailing" means you are driving a tractor without a trailer attached.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

PSD:

Prime Student Driver

Prime Inc has a CDL training program and the first phase is referred to as PSD. You'll get your permit and then 10,000 miles of on the road instruction.

The following is from Prime's website:

Prime’s PSD begins with you obtaining your CDL permit. Then you’ll go on the road with a certified CDL instructor for no less than 75 hours of one-on-one behind the wheel training. After training, you’ll return to Prime’s corporate headquarters in Springfield, Missouri, for final CDL state testing and your CDL license.

Obtain CDL Permit / 4 Days

  • Enter program, study and test for Missouri CDL permit.
  • Start driving/training at Prime Training Center in Springfield, Missouri.
  • Work toward 40,000 training dispatched miles (minimum) with food allowance while without CDL (Food allowance is paid back with future earnings).

On-the-Road Instruction / 10,000 Miles

  • Train with experienced certified CDL instructor for 3-4 weeks in a real world environment.
  • Get 75 hours of behind-the-wheel time with one-on-one student/instructor ratio.
  • Earn 10,000 miles toward total 40,000 miles needed.

TNT:

Trainer-N-Trainee

Prime Inc has their own CDL training program and it's divided into two phases - PSD and TNT.

The PSD (Prime Student Driver) phase is where you'll get your permit and then go on the road for 10,000 miles with a trainer. When you come back you'll get your CDL license and enter the TNT phase.

The TNT phase is the second phase of training where you'll go on the road with an experienced driver for 30,000 miles of team driving. You'll receive 14¢ per mile ($700 per week guaranteed) during this phase. Once you're finished with TNT training you will be assigned a truck to run solo.

Ice cream man's Comment
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When I started at prime most of my PSD class had never seen inside of truck . But if they put in the time and truly want then your all set . I found the pre trip here on trucking truth to be a better study guide then primes Good luck you will do great

PSD:

Prime Student Driver

Prime Inc has a CDL training program and the first phase is referred to as PSD. You'll get your permit and then 10,000 miles of on the road instruction.

The following is from Prime's website:

Prime’s PSD begins with you obtaining your CDL permit. Then you’ll go on the road with a certified CDL instructor for no less than 75 hours of one-on-one behind the wheel training. After training, you’ll return to Prime’s corporate headquarters in Springfield, Missouri, for final CDL state testing and your CDL license.

Obtain CDL Permit / 4 Days

  • Enter program, study and test for Missouri CDL permit.
  • Start driving/training at Prime Training Center in Springfield, Missouri.
  • Work toward 40,000 training dispatched miles (minimum) with food allowance while without CDL (Food allowance is paid back with future earnings).

On-the-Road Instruction / 10,000 Miles

  • Train with experienced certified CDL instructor for 3-4 weeks in a real world environment.
  • Get 75 hours of behind-the-wheel time with one-on-one student/instructor ratio.
  • Earn 10,000 miles toward total 40,000 miles needed.
Joel D.'s Comment
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I don’t think you can beat real world practice, in my humble opinion. Of course I haven’t actually done any truck driving yet, but I would guess at least for me, that’s how I would learn best.

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Were you given an opportunity to practice backing at truck stops and customers, or did you practice mostly on a pad? What did you find most helpful?

As a recent PSD student, what kind of method did you use to learn pre trip, 40? I wrote it out, section by section, several times. I'd go over it in my head during walks and before I fell asleep. It was easy once I had an actual truck to demonstrate on. Different methods work for different people. It would be useful to know how other people learned.

Were you given an opportunity to practice backing at truck stops and customers, or did you practice mostly on a pad? What did you find most helpful?

PSD:

Prime Student Driver

Prime Inc has a CDL training program and the first phase is referred to as PSD. You'll get your permit and then 10,000 miles of on the road instruction.

The following is from Prime's website:

Prime’s PSD begins with you obtaining your CDL permit. Then you’ll go on the road with a certified CDL instructor for no less than 75 hours of one-on-one behind the wheel training. After training, you’ll return to Prime’s corporate headquarters in Springfield, Missouri, for final CDL state testing and your CDL license.

Obtain CDL Permit / 4 Days

  • Enter program, study and test for Missouri CDL permit.
  • Start driving/training at Prime Training Center in Springfield, Missouri.
  • Work toward 40,000 training dispatched miles (minimum) with food allowance while without CDL (Food allowance is paid back with future earnings).

On-the-Road Instruction / 10,000 Miles

  • Train with experienced certified CDL instructor for 3-4 weeks in a real world environment.
  • Get 75 hours of behind-the-wheel time with one-on-one student/instructor ratio.
  • Earn 10,000 miles toward total 40,000 miles needed.
Trucker Kearsey 's Comment
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Prime does have a pretrip video both on the phone app and youtube ;)

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