FEMA Load Pay

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Chelly N.'s Comment
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I have a couple of questions if somebody might be able to help me understand Question 1: My groom is a driver and I have felt like something hasn't seemed right with his pay from day one.... Anyway I noticed this past Friday 10-4-19 his check stub seemed shady as heck.... They seem to have a problem with a recent FEMA load (got paid $325.00 for this load - load payment was on 9-27-19 - load was actually dispatched on 9-16-19) he had and took like $265.00 from his check this week for this load assignment.... Boiling down to only paying him for "empty miles" and payment total of $60.00..... what the heck happened??? Why would a company pay u for the load then take that money u earned away just like that??? I'm thinking that the FEMA load itself had something wrong with it but I don't know until he talks to payroll tomorrow... Came here to see if I maybe could get some answers before then....

Question 2: Per Diem pay or straight mileage pay??? I feel like he would make more money (gross pay) going to straight mileage pay and dropping per diem all together.... Thoughts plz (OTR out 12 home 2)

Thanx in advance, Chelly

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

Per Diem:

Getting paid per diem means getting a portion of your salary paid to you without taxes taken out. It's technically classified as a meal and expense reimbursement.

Truck drivers and others who travel for a living get large tax deductions for meal expenses. The Government set up per diem pay as a way to reimburse some of the taxes you pay with each paycheck instead of making you wait until tax filing season.

Getting per diem pay means a driver will get a larger paycheck each week but a smaller tax return at tax time.

We have a ton of information on our wiki page on per diem pay

Trucker Kearsey 's Comment
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Hi... first off he needs to be the one asking the questions, not you. Sorry, but as a CDL driver, he is responsible for everything and having a woman push him is not the way to get things done in trucking.

Second, it sounds like he took a pay advance before he was paid, so he WAS paid ahead of time. Basically he borrowed against his future pay and had to pay them back. The fact he is hiding this from you doesn't surprise me cause you sound very controlling.

Third, ask an accountant who handles trucking. Do you understand per diem at all? With what authority have you decided it would be better?

It depends on peoples circumstances. I get per diem and made out much much better on my taxes with it. Everyones situation is different.

If he is running FEMA loads he isn't a newbie....so why would you trust a bunch of strangers over your hubby?

i say let him handle his job and pay. How would you feel if he was all up in your work wanting you to question your boss?

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Per Diem:

Getting paid per diem means getting a portion of your salary paid to you without taxes taken out. It's technically classified as a meal and expense reimbursement.

Truck drivers and others who travel for a living get large tax deductions for meal expenses. The Government set up per diem pay as a way to reimburse some of the taxes you pay with each paycheck instead of making you wait until tax filing season.

Getting per diem pay means a driver will get a larger paycheck each week but a smaller tax return at tax time.

We have a ton of information on our wiki page on per diem pay

Chelly N.'s Comment
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Kearsey.... I simply noticed this information and thought it was not correct and questioned my groom about these adjustments.... He didn't know and said he would talk to payroll in the am.... Him not I... I just brought it to his attention and decided to ask others in the mean time.... Another thing is I take care of our bills and his pay is important for me to know it's only natural to ask questions if you don't understand adjustments and deductions on your check stub and since he doesn't handle the bills it falls into my court.... Ask him and go forth.... Another thing is.... He had spoken to other drivers with the company and every single one of them told him to get off of per diem for he only gets paid X amount per mile and if he dropped per diem his mileage pay would go (per diem pay + taxable pay = total mileage pay) to (mileage pay) I mean I was simply just asking questions..... And by the way he figured out after writing and figuring that the deduction amount was "loaded mile" pay.... He didn't take an advance pay out of his check.... If he did it would clearly state on his check stub "advance pay" plus amount.... He has taken out an advance pay before and that wasn't an advance.... He tells me everything and wouldn't go "behind my back" about anything.... Thanks for making him sound like a complete jerk but he's not.... We discuss everything and don't keep things from each other.... It's crazy you "assume" crap like that like all men are always hiding crap from their wives.... "Assume" means when u make an @zz out of me and you for "assuming" unintelligent issues of the which you did.... Wow I come here expecting to be educated and get treated like a controlling overbearing wife when the fact of the matter is he drives a truck OTR and can't handle "home matters" at the same time.... His number one focus OTR is to focus On The Road and not worry about paying the bills or if the bills get paid... That's my job as his wife and our marriage is a 50/50 effort on both ends.... I take care of home matters while he brings home the bread and that works for us.... I'm sorry you feel the way you feel about me as a wife but all I wanted to know was simple facts not to be talked down to like I'm stupid or something.... If you don't know something it's always best to ask instead of "ass-u-me" things..... Thank you for you delightful reply Cheers

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

Per Diem:

Getting paid per diem means getting a portion of your salary paid to you without taxes taken out. It's technically classified as a meal and expense reimbursement.

Truck drivers and others who travel for a living get large tax deductions for meal expenses. The Government set up per diem pay as a way to reimburse some of the taxes you pay with each paycheck instead of making you wait until tax filing season.

Getting per diem pay means a driver will get a larger paycheck each week but a smaller tax return at tax time.

We have a ton of information on our wiki page on per diem pay

Cantankerous Amicus's Comment
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Now I can educate myself without "nagging" him 24/7
Wow I come here expecting to be educated and get treated like a controlling overbearing wife when the fact of the matter is he drives a truck OTR and can't handle "home matters" at the same time....

You came here with questions and you don't like the answers. You didn't even wait until he talked to his company before posting an overbearing wall of nagging text. Expecting to be educated is a pretty entitled attitude. That rarely puts people in a mood to be friendly or helpful back to you.

His number one focus OTR is to focus On The Road and not worry about paying the bills or if the bills get paid...

Part of any job is knowing what's going on with one's paycheck. Paying bills happens later and is only tangentially related. It's barely morning on the east coast right now and you said six hours ago that he would take care of it in the morning. Give him a chance to solve step one. Then you can move on to step two.

That's my job as his wife and our marriage is a 50/50 effort on both ends....

You have two posts in this thread. Now it's his turn to post two posts.

Thanks for making him sound like a complete jerk but he's not.... We discuss everything and don't keep things from each other....

Does your husband know that you are posting here? Does he know how you are treating his colleagues? Hopefully you aren't doing this behind his back.

Hopefully you can see what's going on in your two posts in this thread and the conversation can continue in a way that is more helpful not only to you and your husband, but to other people reading here as well. It's an interesting topic where the trucking veterans here might be able to share some interesting solutions.

Best of luck to you.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Big T's Comment
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Wow Chelly you lit a fuse didn't you?

Without working for USX I won't even attempt the first question. That's going to be a payroll dept or contract his dispatch to go over it with him.

As far as the second question goes yes he may "make" more going straight mileage but will take home less. Which is better depends on your situation.

As I understand it. Being paid per diem can hurt you when applying for a home loan because on paper you are making less. However I'm sure one of the financial gurus on here will know for sure.

Per Diem:

Getting paid per diem means getting a portion of your salary paid to you without taxes taken out. It's technically classified as a meal and expense reimbursement.

Truck drivers and others who travel for a living get large tax deductions for meal expenses. The Government set up per diem pay as a way to reimburse some of the taxes you pay with each paycheck instead of making you wait until tax filing season.

Getting per diem pay means a driver will get a larger paycheck each week but a smaller tax return at tax time.

We have a ton of information on our wiki page on per diem pay

Deleted Account's Comment
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Thanks for the good laugh this morning. It always amazes me seeing these new posters pop in and immediately criticize those offering help. Are you that impatient you couldnt wait a few hours for him to contact somebody within his company that would have the correct answer regarding his pay? Kearsey mentioned the advances you're not aware of because your story sounds almost identical to many we've read by trucking spouses that indeed were advances. Clearly no answer we would have given you would have been enough. You were given a couple of possibilities and I guess you need to wait to hear from his company so we don't offend you.

You said

My groom is a driver and I have felt like something hasn't seemed right with his pay from day one.... Anyway I noticed this past Friday 10-4-19 his check stub seemed shady as heck....

how long has he worked at this company? Is he lease or company driver? If his pay hasn't seemed right why has HE waited so long to get it straightened out? Almost everybody pays careful attention to their pay stub to ensure they were paid correctly, regardless how busy they are.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
PackRat's Comment
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We get paid to drive?shocked.png

We get bashed for solid advice?rofl-2.gif

Big Scott's Comment
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Basically per diem is part of your pay as pre tax and not taxed income. It is meant to cover living expenses, food, clothing, etc. We can no longer take that as a deduction on taxes. It will lower your taxable income and the amount going into social security. The taxes out of your check will be less and you end up with more cash in your pocket each pay period. There is usually a small fee to the company to manage this.

Sorry if you felt jumped on from your initial post. However, you sounded like the many wives and girlfriends of drivers we have seen who are in bad relationships.

Good luck to you.

Per Diem:

Getting paid per diem means getting a portion of your salary paid to you without taxes taken out. It's technically classified as a meal and expense reimbursement.

Truck drivers and others who travel for a living get large tax deductions for meal expenses. The Government set up per diem pay as a way to reimburse some of the taxes you pay with each paycheck instead of making you wait until tax filing season.

Getting per diem pay means a driver will get a larger paycheck each week but a smaller tax return at tax time.

We have a ton of information on our wiki page on per diem pay

Trucker Kearsey 's Comment
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Nope, i stand by my initial assessment of the OP.

Kearsey.... I simply noticed this information and thought it was not correct and questioned my groom about these adjustments.... He didn't know and said he would talk to payroll in the am..

THAT is where it should have ended. No asking internet. No criticizing experienced drivers for telling you he needs to straighten it out himself.

The OP through posting this thread conveys her "groom" as an irresponsible guy with no back bone. If he was a take charge kind of person, the issue would have been fixed right away. And it wouldnt have needed to be "noticed" by her.

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