Trailer Brake

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Grumpy Old Man's Comment
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So how do you test your trailer brakes without it?

PackRat's Comment
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So how do you test your trailer brakes without it?

Trailer brake set (red knob out), release tractor brake (yellow knob in), then do a couple tug tests.

Errol V.'s Comment
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So how do you test your trailer brakes without it?

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Trailer brake set (red knob out), release tractor brake (yellow knob in), then do a couple tug tests.

The trailer ("Trolley" or "hand") brake lever controls the trailer's service brakes. The red "Trailer Air Supply" valve runs the trailer's spring/parking brakes. So the basic tug test only checks the trailer parking brakes.

Here's a question from the CDL General Knowledge test bank:

Q. When should you use the hand valve to park a combination vehicle?
    a. To park at loading docks.
    b. To park on a grade.
    c. To park for less than two hours.
    d, Never.

The correct answer: "d." I tell students in class the best use for that lever is, as noted, a place to hang your sunglasses.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Combination Vehicle:

A vehicle with two separate parts - the power unit (tractor) and the trailer. Tractor-trailers are considered combination vehicles.

Rick C.'s Comment
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I recently used mine coming down a steep hill in a blizzard with a load of gravel. Truck started jackknifing because I had the engine braking still set on high (blizzard came on quick). Handily straightened the rig right out. Gotta use a delicate touch, though, they'll lock the trailer wheels up pretty easy. Anyway, glad to have it available.

BJess's Comment
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I asked my trainer last night since we don’t have it on our truck how do you check the brake lights on a trailer alone? I was taught many years ago to depress trailer parking brake, pull down the trolley bar, and walk back to ensure brake lights are working.

His answer: a chuckle and he reaches behind the seat and pulls out a small oak tree branch with a Y on one end that he cut long enough to put the Y on a cross bar of the seat and the flat ends depressed the brake pedal.

That my friends is just one item of what 35 years of driving experience will teach me. I think it falls under the category of “a truck driver always has to think on his toes and overcome obstacles on his own!”

Brandon Kitts's Comment
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I asked my trainer last night since we don’t have it on our truck how do you check the brake lights on a trailer alone? I was taught many years ago to depress trailer parking brake, pull down the trolley bar, and walk back to ensure brake lights are working.

His answer: a chuckle and he reaches behind the seat and pulls out a small oak tree branch with a Y on one end that he cut long enough to put the Y on a cross bar of the seat and the flat ends depressed the brake pedal.

That my friends is just one item of what 35 years of driving experience will teach me. I think it falls under the category of “a truck driver always has to think on his toes and overcome obstacles on his own!”

My International has a light test button. I turn it on during pretrip and it cycles all the outside lights continuously until turned off.

Our trucks dont have the trolley brake levers either.

G-Town's Comment
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Rick C wrote:

I recently used mine coming down a steep hill in a blizzard with a load of gravel. Truck started jackknifing because I had the engine braking still set on high (blizzard came on quick). Handily straightened the rig right out. Gotta use a delicate touch, though, they'll lock the trailer wheels up pretty easy. Anyway, glad to have it available.

The purpose of the trolley brake is not intended for what you claimed to have used it for. How is it you had the presence of mind to pull the trolley brake but not kill your Jake Brake?

Every technical document, DMV CDL manuals and instructor courses emphatically recommend not using it as a service brake while the truck is moving.

Very dangerous what you did. Please do not advise anyone to use the trolley brake for anything other than testing your trailer brakes or holding your tandems while sliding them.

If in fact your story is true, 99 times out of 100 your trailer brakes will lock, causing an already bad situation to get worse.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Tandems:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Tandem:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

Brett Aquila's Comment
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I recently used mine coming down a steep hill in a blizzard with a load of gravel. Truck started jackknifing because I had the engine braking still set on high (blizzard came on quick). Handily straightened the rig right out. Gotta use a delicate touch, though, they'll lock the trailer wheels up pretty easy. Anyway, glad to have it available.

Now THAT'S a trucker story if I ever heard one!!! It's a long way from being in the Hall of Fame, but a good one nonetheless.

A rookie driver going down a mountain loaded heavy in a blizzard has the presence of mind, quickness, and delicate touch to prevent an ongoing tractor jackknife by easing on the trolley brake just in the nick of time?

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That's a fantasy scenario you dreamed up in your head, friend. Sounded great, though. If you were that good, the Jakes wouldn't have been on full blast in that scenario in the first place. Instead of hitting the trolley bar you would have gotten on the throttle which would have shut off the Jakes and helped you accelerate out of the slide at the same time.

Great story, though. Went good with my coffee.

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Old School's Comment
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That's one of those "Ice Road Trucker" tales. Rookies believe them. Veterans know much better.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
G-Town's Comment
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That's one of those "Ice Road Trucker" tales. Rookies believe them. Veterans know much better.

Yah think? I rewrote my reply three times in order to reduce the snarkiness... “a kinder, gentler G-town”.

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Looking forward to reading a really juicy reply from Rick.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
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