Driving School Nightmare

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Ten T.'s Comment
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So I have went through truck driving school and sure it was fun at first I was getting pretty good with everything the pre trips easy driving pretty good even though I hate manuals now I put every bit of energy I had into it my weakness was of course backing so I tried to get better and I have, but when I went to take the test the first time things went down hill the examiner did not properly verify the name of the person testing and someone else took the test under my name and he didn't figure it out until the test was over so I did not get to take it that day and then corona virus hit and I had to wait two months during this time I kept going to the driving school where I was told to let the newer ones go first and for me to sit back and do his job for him teaching them pre trip and the backing I knew while I was severely limited one day I got into the truck tying to practice backing after doing the straight line I was told to let the others do it so I couldn't practice he refused to let me drive for weeks so when I finally got to take the test I failed due to screwing up on the 90 degree because of him not allowing me to practice so I wasted time and money to sit at the "driving school" and do nothing I got an offer to be a yard dog and took it because he wasn't going to let me do anything and now with this experience all the time and effort I put in is wasted I feel drained and all the determination I had at first is completely gone and I have no other options it ****es me off that he will get away with doing this and I am just not sure I ever want to take that test again. If this is how I am getting treated now I can only imagine it would get worse and I have absolutely no one to turn to to get some semblance of justice from the way I have been treated

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Greg M.'s Comment
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So you have a job now as a yard dog? Take your time and be careful and learning the 90 will take care of itself. Now that you are in the industry getting an opportunity to take the cdl test again should not be a problem. Maybe your employer will help, you could go to a 3rd party tester that rents equipment, find an owner operator willing to help for a few bucks. Stop complaining about how wrongly you were treated and figure out a way fix the problem.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Owner Operator:

An owner-operator is a driver who either owns or leases the truck they are driving. A self-employed driver.

Deleted Account's Comment
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all the time and effort I put in is wasted I feel drained and all the determination I had at first is completely gone and I have no other options it ****es me off that he will get away with doing this and I am just not sure I ever want to take that test again. If this is how I am getting treated now I can only imagine it would get worse and I have absolutely no one to turn to to get some semblance of justice from the way I have been treated

You're right. The time and money I'd wasted but not for the reasons you think. Its wasted because you're allowing it to. another member, Moe, failed his backing test 5 times. He ended up needing to transfer his residency to a neighboring state just to be allowed to even attempt to test again. He stuck with it and is now a proud CDL holder. The issues the school is facing due to coronavirus is out of their control. These programs are designed to be completed in 160 hours. They cant just tell other students their practice time is going to suffer because you struggled with a maneuver. You failed your first attempt, big deal. There are many people, even some of our highly respected members here that took multiple attempts to pass the test. This is one reason we feel so strongly about Paid CDL Training Programs.

What "justice" are you hoping to achieve?

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Old School's Comment
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Ten T, you posted this same complaint a little more than a month ago. It's really eating at you isn't it? The length of time you've let it irritate you like this is probably a good measure of your inability to let go of a problem and get aggressive with a solution. It's a bad harbinger of your ability to assess the problems trucking will throw at you everyday. You've got a lot of personal growth that needs to be done.

You've wasted so much personal energy on this that now you're looking for justice! I would never have allowed something like this to keep me out of this game. In fact, I easily had ten times the struggle you've shared here when starting my trucking career. I never quit, never gave up hope, and most importantly, I certainly never blamed anybody. I persevered and made it happen. That's what you need to do. Tenacity is not defined by how bitter, angry, or revengeful we can get. It's defined by the will to survive.

To be honest, it seems like a simple solution. We teach it all the time. You could be getting paid to train at one of the many Paid CDL Training Programs. You chose the private school route. Now you understand why we are always recommending the company sponsored training programs.

Get over it man - move on. You're killing yourself needlessly.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Company Sponsored Training:

A Company-Sponsored Training Program is a school that is owned and operated by a trucking company.

The schooling often requires little or no money up front. Instead of paying up-front tuition you will sign an agreement to work for the company for a specified amount of time after graduation, usually around a year, at a slightly lower rate of pay in order to pay for the training.

If you choose to quit working for the company before your year is up, they will normally require you to pay back a prorated amount of money for the schooling. The amount you pay back will be comparable to what you would have paid if you went to an independently owned school.

Company-sponsored training can be an excellent way to get your career underway if you can't afford the tuition up front for private schooling.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
PackRat's Comment
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Exactly right. You've posted of how bad it is, how you were given a bad deal, and trucking school just sucks.

Four posts in five weeks, all of gloom and doom. It didn't have to be this way, but there is a common link on here of this type of reaction, mainly from those that go the private schooling route instead of company sponsored training.

This is a good example of why we highly recommend company training. The company has a vested interest in seeing you succeed, whereas a private school has more of an interest in making/taking a student's money.

Company Sponsored Training:

A Company-Sponsored Training Program is a school that is owned and operated by a trucking company.

The schooling often requires little or no money up front. Instead of paying up-front tuition you will sign an agreement to work for the company for a specified amount of time after graduation, usually around a year, at a slightly lower rate of pay in order to pay for the training.

If you choose to quit working for the company before your year is up, they will normally require you to pay back a prorated amount of money for the schooling. The amount you pay back will be comparable to what you would have paid if you went to an independently owned school.

Company-sponsored training can be an excellent way to get your career underway if you can't afford the tuition up front for private schooling.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Bird-One's Comment
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No one is going to feel sorry for you out here Ten. Trucking is a career where you need to be able to stand up yourself and speak up for yourself. Or you will be a doormat. You said...

I got into the truck tying to practice backing after doing the straight line I was told to let the others do it so I couldn't practice he refused to let me drive for weeks.

Nobody would of been pulling me out of a truck I can guarantee that. Paid cdl training is the way to go. Always will be.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Ten T.'s Comment
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Don't get me wrong I got a vague idea of what to do thanks to that school and yes they did walk all over me and yes the private trucking school like his has a low emphasis on safety as he "let a student hit a light pole to show him what could happen if you don't swing wide" and using us as pack mules to haul fully loaded at 72000 lbs about 100 miles so yes irritated but I agree my backing is already significantly better and I'm in good with a trucking company now but getting rusty as yard trucks drive differently than sleepers or even day cabs

Day Cab:

A tractor which does not have a sleeper berth attached to it. Normally used for local routes where drivers go home every night.

Old School's Comment
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Ten T, you've got some really strange things to say.

he "let a student hit a light pole to show him what could happen if you don't swing wide"

None of us believe your truck driving school purposely allows it's students to damage things like that as a way to teach them. That's ridiculous.

using us as pack mules to haul fully loaded at 72000 lbs about 100 miles

If you haven't noticed, that's what truck drivers do - they haul stuff. How in the heck do you consider that as being used? You might try and figure out how you should be grateful for the experience of learning to pull a loaded trailer.

I'm in good with a trucking company now

I'm not really sure what that means, but why can't you seem to turn that opportunity into a job or a career?

the private trucking school like his has a low emphasis on safety

That's crazy talk. Nobody runs a business like this not caring about safety. You're not convincing us, and you're certainly not learning the things you need to make a successful career at this. You have got some preconceived ideas, and you seem to like finding ways to confirm them. That's a really bad way to go into something that is safety sensitive and complex.

You get no points in here for playing the blame game. You can criticize and complain all you like, but ultimately you will be the determining factor as to whether or not you can muster success at trucking.

PackRat's Comment
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Ten T., after reading your latest tale, I feel you may have reached your zenith as a yard jockey.

"Pack mules to haul a loaded trailer 100 miles"? That's a rough day.

"Let a student hit a light pole" for a teaching opportunity? Nobody is falling for that one.

Turtle's Comment
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I deleted your last reply, Ten. That kind of language won't be tolerated here.

You were given solid advice, but that obviously wasn't what you wanted to hear.

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