Hair Follicle Testing

I wouldn’t say you dont know and i didnt . If i knew I wouldn’t have post . I appreciate your reply because you have been kind like a few others. I got defensive when people started talking about my past employment at other places . Yes i am harsh. I am passionate about what i do. As well as what i want todo . Im not a half full half empty guy. Im an all or nothing kinda guy.. i use my choice in words poorly over the interwebs and ill be the first to admit that. Also im not a review writter .. because my experience isnt eveyone else . Im going off people i know personally and things i have read and watched .. but I appreciate your reply and i have taken everything in.. you and the gentleman who posted after you when i first posted this had answered my question. As i wish there was a way to delete threads . But there is not. I used poor wording when replying to both of you. Which caused others to come at me the way they did . But this went from HF testing to a thread about me and swift . Trust me i wont be posting any more questions. Because i see how it turns out. Part of the reason i took me this long to post it . Because i see how some of these people reply to others .. but I sincerely thank YOU for your replies.. be safe out there!

Toby, as you can see a majority of our experienced members have given up or chosen not to jump in with advice because you are coming across as already knowing it all. If you get into trucking with this attitude I can assure you that you're just going to be another statistic and flooding forums and review sites about how abc trucking is a terrible place to work. We welcome EVERYBODY regardless of past mistakes, drug/alcohol use etc to jump in these discussions. Even if we disagree with past choices we still offer the same help. All of us donate our time to help newcomers get started in this industry. For anybody lurking please don't be discouraged and think we're being harsh. We've seen this before where people ask a question and use that as a platform to push some agenda or tell us we don't know what we're talking about. Our community here is full of drivers from all walks of life with different experiences and pulling different freight. What brings us all together is our willingness and enjoyment to help others get a successful start to this career. I'm off today so I have some extra time, but a majority of us are only off for 10 hours a day. Why waste our time on somebody that isnt going to appreciate it when there's countless others that would.

So, with no name or picture, did he quit the site or did a moderator?

He blacked out the picture and changed his name to "unknown." I will update it so it's something we can work with. I warned you guys what was coming. Have fun with this guy. I'll spend my time on better candidates, those who appreciate the help, and will listen.

I never said anything about pain killers .. wrong thread homie ..

So, with no name or picture, did he quit the site or did a moderator?

I looked up side effects of Lortab (hydrocodone and acetaminophen) and was going to talk with him about that. Oh well.

Laura

Nobody is trying to convince you to go with Swift. The comments defending swift are for those lurking and future readers. It's the largest carrier in the country and they hire rookies which means they'll have a good amount of accidents. They're also the largest for a reason.

And yes, you can go work for your buddy that requires 6 months experience but your buddy isn't the one requiring that experience it's the insurance company. That means that the insurance company decides who gets hired or fired.

Let's say you get your 6 months experience and you go work for your buddy. Within a year you hit a car in a parking lot, scrape a truck at a truck stop and hit a pole at a customer. It happens all the time. Your buddy's insurance company is going to say "this guy is a liability, we can't insure him". Your buddy is going to tell you that you have to go.

That's the difference between a small company and swift, prime, roehl etc. Those companies are self insured. You can do all 3 of those things and as long as you own up to them, tell them what you learned and what you'll do differently you'll still have a job.

We're not here campaigning for these companies, we're here trying to get you to understand the way you're making this decision is wrong. You're willing to decide an entire career over a 24 hour bus ride that isn't mandatory. You can rent a car or buy an airplane ticket if you want. You should want a large company with an extensive network of support for when you need it.

You're honestly too picky for somebody in your position. You have no experience, no license, a hair follicle test is tricky and you're in an area most companies have no interest in. Yet you have demands of someone in a position of experience and an excellent service history.

Lol I can assure you I’m able to read and comprehend the English language just fine. I don’t have an issue with you not wanting to work for Swift, I was just giving you my perspective hoping you’d let it resonate with you to help make a more well rounded outlook since you seem to value peoples opinions. At the end of the day, all these companies are going to expect the same thing out of you, regardless of what their little nuances are. They’re also going to run their “day-to-day” in a similar way.

The current company I work for gets bashed left and right on online employee reviews. It means nothing to me because we get treated extremely well. I’ve seen guys who are lazy and have bad attitudes put in their two weeks notice and get told “thanks but no thanks, go ahead and walk now” while I was given a meeting with our regional manager to discuss opportunities to solve problems and was given an extra couple dollars an hour. The point is bad employees have bad experience and good employees have good experiences. Sure, that’s not the case everywhere but in a performance based industry like this, it applies in a lot of places. I gave you some good advice on this post and my last post and even told you I’m rooting for you but you chose to ignore it. Which is fine, you’ll get humbled pretty quick and figure it out on your own.

Im not demanding anything friend.. i asked a question. My decision to not like swift really isnt a bus ticket has far more than that. I get the insurance aspect . I also emailed Brett to delete the thread altogether. Bc my opnion shouldnt affect what other people think. I got the answer to my question. But this whole thing has went far beyond that. I would just delete everything. But the first 2 people who replied . All my replies and everyones elses. I appreciate your input. Thanks for taking the time to reply and not being one of those guys . Have a good day. Drive safe

Nobody is trying to convince you to go with Swift. The comments defending swift are for those lurking and future readers. It's the largest carrier in the country and they hire rookies which means they'll have a good amount of accidents. They're also the largest for a reason.

And yes, you can go work for your buddy that requires 6 months experience but your buddy isn't the one requiring that experience it's the insurance company. That means that the insurance company decides who gets hired or fired.

Let's say you get your 6 months experience and you go work for your buddy. Within a year you hit a car in a parking lot, scrape a truck at a truck stop and hit a pole at a customer. It happens all the time. Your buddy's insurance company is going to say "this guy is a liability, we can't insure him". Your buddy is going to tell you that you have to go.

That's the difference between a small company and swift, prime, roehl etc. Those companies are self insured. You can do all 3 of those things and as long as you own up to them, tell them what you learned and what you'll do differently you'll still have a job.

We're not here campaigning for these companies, we're here trying to get you to understand the way you're making this decision is wrong. You're willing to decide an entire career over a 24 hour bus ride that isn't mandatory. You can rent a car or buy an airplane ticket if you want. You should want a large company with an extensive network of support for when you need it.

You're honestly too picky for somebody in your position. You have no experience, no license, a hair follicle test is tricky and you're in an area most companies have no interest in. Yet you have demands of someone in a position of experience and an excellent service history.

Yawn...

My decision to not like swift really isnt a bus ticket has far more than that.

I can respect the decision that a certain company isnt for you. Similar to Banks I knew PAM and CRST were companies I would not want to drive for. They're both solid choices and have a long line of successful drivers, but team driving doesn't appeal to me. The reason Swift continues to be brought up is we don't want anybody having these thoughts that a company is a terrible place to work due to some knuckleheads spouting off nonsense on review sites. In one of your first posts you wrote

i worked at lowes for some time as a out door receiver. so i unloaded every truck that needed to be unloaded with a fork truck. I asked questions .. 99% of them said stay away from swift. i have seen maybe 2-3 good views about working from swift and they usually from people who are on the payroll making videos

but do these drivers have first hand knowledge of working there? Or are they just getting in on the F swift bandwagon? You just wrote off POSITIVE reviews because it doesnt fit what others want to believe. Nobody here is trying to make you change your mind but we don't want someone new to read this and base a career decision on total nonsense. For what it's worth, if I were to ever go OTR Swift would be my first call due to endless opportunities to find the perfect fit for me.

I'm done with this thread. Long story short If you have any doubt about passing a drug test hold off. If you're able to hold out until you can pass a hair test you will be in a much better position to find the perfect fit for you. I couldn't care less where you get your start. Just remember that if you do go to Windy Hill they may not currently be doing hair follicle but you could show up to orientation and be informed you're part of the first group doing so. At that point it's too late to back out. Refusal is the same, if not worse, than a positive test. Hair tests do not go down as DOT failed but it's still a failure and others will be able to see that. let us know how things work out.

Thanks for the advise ! Again I appreciate your input. Have a good day Rob stay safe out there

My decision to not like swift really isnt a bus ticket has far more than that.

I can respect the decision that a certain company isnt for you. Similar to Banks I knew PAM and CRST were companies I would not want to drive for. They're both solid choices and have a long line of successful drivers, but team driving doesn't appeal to me. The reason Swift continues to be brought up is we don't want anybody having these thoughts that a company is a terrible place to work due to some knuckleheads spouting off nonsense on review sites. In one of your first posts you wrote

i worked at lowes for some time as a out door receiver. so i unloaded every truck that needed to be unloaded with a fork truck. I asked questions .. 99% of them said stay away from swift. i have seen maybe 2-3 good views about working from swift and they usually from people who are on the payroll making videos

but do these drivers have first hand knowledge of working there? Or are they just getting in on the F swift bandwagon? You just wrote off POSITIVE reviews because it doesnt fit what others want to believe. Nobody here is trying to make you change your mind but we don't want someone new to read this and base a career decision on total nonsense. For what it's worth, if I were to ever go OTR Swift would be my first call due to endless opportunities to find the perfect fit for me.

I'm done with this thread. Long story short If you have any doubt about passing a drug test hold off. If you're able to hold out until you can pass a hair test you will be in a much better position to find the perfect fit for you. I couldn't care less where you get your start. Just remember that if you do go to Windy Hill they may not currently be doing hair follicle but you could show up to orientation and be informed you're part of the first group doing so. At that point it's too late to back out. Refusal is the same, if not worse, than a positive test. Hair tests do not go down as DOT failed but it's still a failure and others will be able to see that. let us know how things work out.

Homie??? What the heck is a homie?? You would do well to respect your elders, young man.

Laura

I never said anything about pain killers .. wrong thread homie ..

So, with no name or picture, did he quit the site or did a moderator?

I looked up side effects of Lortab (hydrocodone and acetaminophen) and was going to talk with him about that. Oh well.

Laura