Mistake On Swift Application.

I might not make it in the Trucking industry, if it is all dehumanized of decency, order, respect, maybe even compassion and love. I will never sell my soul for a paycheck to work for or around companies or people like that .

I still like Mike D's encouragement. Theres a company out there for me who will think im just great, and respect me, and love all my good qualities. Work with me on the bad. I will obviously have to keep an eye out for them.

aww some facts. Thats what i like TYVM, i appreciate you posting them, really i do. I knew if i kept (fishing long enough) i could get to some facts, even if they were cold hard facts. I feel so much more prepared and confident now, better equipped, and learned from my failure.

So even though i have abandoned my foray with swift, i was prepared to ask another Recruiter at Swift, that i would pay for my background check and costs if i had 2 DUI's. I saw some pricing from hireright, several types, starting at approx, 90, 120, 160 something like that. Obviously Trucking companies get a discount for bulk. Besides 160 is nothing to me, im not desperate . Besides i might find a Recruiter , who would appreciate someone willing to be honest, work through a problem, thinking outside the box to solve it, even though it was a boneheaded, rookie , honest mistake. However, maybe the trucking industry is too Neanderthal for me?

I am still Going to receive Mike D's encouragement, and facts from anyone.

Sincecerly, Thank you

I dont think im fixated at all with Swift, i am trying to work through my problem, so i get it right with the next company. Also just bouncing the idea about fixing with Swift, because its an easy problem to solve.

I did ask several question Turtle actually, finally addressed them. So i had to give a bunch of background info, so that could be misconstrued, its ok, i forgive you, honest mistake.

Part of the confusion i had, was when i said i had 2 dui verbally, did Swift recruiter have that info. Through posting today and reasoning it out, i believe Swift did not have that info. I see now, im not sure when they do a background? I was confused because maybe they had info, that i had 2 DUI. Wracking my brain, i dont, for the life of me remember two.......this is also important moving forward, do i tell the next company irecruiter 2 or 1? I will be telling them 1, i fully know i had 1. I didnt want to get accepted to another Companies school, and halfway through training, find out i had 2, and get sent home. Thats why i was trying to figure out if it a hard hearted Swift employee(hard truth) just gave up on me, or that Swift employee had info i had 2....and was wracking my brain, over it.

But again i now feel confident, that i can move forward.

Yesterday, i spent a lot of time actually gathering paperwork to show 40 years of Self employment, getting my driving record, and anything else needed to back up my words.

Once i do, i think im going to go to the Trucker Truth page, where i can apply for several companies. I dont think Stevens trucking is on that list, they interest me.

I have also decided to call another Recruiter at Swift , i bet i can get an invite from them. Not that i will accept , maybe. Just to show you, i just dont listen to people, telling me move on......without some solid evidence , or reasoning. I messed up a moment, but i have the ability to get another shot , will post that progress.

Tomorrow, investigate cost of my own background.

FAcT: My company would transfer you to the original recruiter

FACT: My company would not run the background check until after they had spoken with a candidate and liked them. They probably never ran yours because by your answers you told them it is a waste of time and money.

FACT: you wasted time and energy collecting 40 years of employment & MVR when they only care about 3 years (10 if you had a CDL already). The DUI thing should have been easy for you to find had you been responsible for keeping records. You need to know your record.

FACT: You can be sent home from training at ANY point. Prime fires trainees for "Not Prime material" including unsafe driving. And horrible attitude.

It seems the Trucking world has a lot of big ego's, oh goodie, i will fit right in. This is going to be fun. Now i do try to use my big ego, for love, kindness and Good and to glorify God. I know how to guard myself and keep it from the dark side.

You are so right, i am upset that Swift employees, treat me like crap. I am better than that. TYVM.

I should not try to spite them, but find people who will appreciate me, even if i am slightly flawed.

Good Grief!! You are so FULL OF IT!! It is all about "they are treating ME badly", "they are treating ME like crap"...me, me, ME! You talk about you shouldn't be spiteful to them. Since this has crossed your mind, that's not a good sign.

You have been advised by several of the guys to let go, forget Swift and look elsewhere. Yet you can't let go and don't believe you are fixated on Swift....but Swift has been all you have talked about. You need to get a grip on yourself and figure out why you are thinking about being spiteful. That's what immature people do, not a grown, mature adult.

Laura

Nobody is demeaning you and this business is filled with respect, admiration and decency, but those things are earned.

The questions Brett asked you were because of how you handled your phone call with Swift. You said the recruiter was *****y and that she didn't know your name. You said you were going to reapply to get hired and then not go. That's really immature. You said you mumble some stuff under your breathe if someone cuts you off. What if they cut you off and slow down and you have 20 minutes on your clock to be get to a rest area that's 21 minutes away? How do you react when you get a phone call questioning why you went over on hours and they decide to write you up?

How are you going to handle when a DM that doesn't get back to you right away? When you approach a customer and their really rude?

Trainers are no nonsense. My trainer and I are really good friends now, but when he was training me I hated him and he was great lol. Reason being, he was no nonsense. It's a stressful, frustrating face paced process. He had 3 weeks to get me from knowing nothing to CDL test ready including shifting. On day 1 I stalled out going from 2nd to 3rd, that's how much work I needed. When he asked if I was taking this serious it was frustrating because I was giving my all and doing the best I could. How are you going to handle that?

This whole business is attitude and it seems like you came into this thinking anybody can be a trucker and Swift takes everybody. You have to humble yourself in this career because you know nothing. You spent a long time being your own boss, are you prepared to come into this with the supervision and regulations involved with it?

Banks,

Thanks! Your right, i flippantly came in looking for an easy hire . Now that ive had my ass handed to me on a silver platter. Im ready to move forward . Im the best and i can prove it.......lol

Seems to me the easiest fix is to apply at companies that ask "If you've had any DUI's within 5-7 years" doubt they will bother going back 35-40 years.....I will NEVER forget my 2, in 1980/81 !!

Originally ,I was going with Roadmasters / Werner, when I met with the head admissions guy in Fontana, Cal. He asked about any DUI's.... I said yes ,almost 40 years ago young n dumb I had 2. He said don't even bother with those, they're too old now....

1st 1 was like a slap on the wrist, $245 fine, 1 AA meeting and 1 counseling session, Lucky I didn't kill anyone, blew a 0.24 !! (I was 20 yrs old)

2nd, I blew 0.10 barely at the limit, because dumb (21 year old) me took a beer on my drive, to see my soon to be wife at work. I was followed thru 3 freeways before he decided to pull me over. 3/4s of a bottle of beer, I shoved under my seat....so of course he smelt beer in my el camino....

That 1 cost me 15 months of my life, AA meetings, counseling & fee's, then the end fine, in 1981 that $3000 or so it cost me was a lot!! Made me change my wild party single days.!! Never drank n drove ever again, don't even drink now, last time I bought beer was 2005.....

My memory is great, I remember as far back as when I was 4.... In 1963, when the Beatles were on Ed Sullivan show, on CBS on black n white tv, When JFK was killed, my mom cried the whole day.... We were in small hick town in Kansas, at Great Gramps farmhouse.

I still remember the wall paper on the walls. no indoor plumbing, Grams cooked on old iron stove... You got water from the metal hand pump in the kitchen...The bedrooms had porcelain (potty) pots with lids under the beds. Was row of apple trees along front border of his yard at road....And a red & white 1955 Chevy 4 door in the barn.

I’ve been following along reading and thinking about all the comments.

We all learn various things as we go through life. That knowledge and our experiences shape us and give us perspective. The sum total of all of that creates filters within us from where we operate in our daily lives.

Most everyone here have been very successful in life before we decided to get into trucking. The backgrounds of folks here are very wide and encompassing.

In this industry we all start off at exactly the same place, no matter your prior experiences in life. No one is any different from the rest of brand new drivers.

It is often said there is a driver shortage. This is not only a misleading half truth, it has a tendency to create a mindset that hiring is wide open industry wide. The only shortage is in good quality experienced drivers. New drivers are plentiful, as are experienced drivers with issues.

That said, our life experiences will certainly have an impact on our journey through hiring, training, and where we go within the industry. I see lots of folks that do very well and I see just as many or more that don’t do very well or last very long in the industry. It all depends on each individual what they make of it.

I was hoping jrod would have had time to jump in on this since this is all he deals with.

Just my cent and a half.

Most everyone here have been very successful in life before we decided to get into trucking.

That's why so many exceptional quality drivers get their start here. Many of the principles we teach for being successful in trucking apply to any endeavor in life. If you were successful elsewhere, you recognize that. We then teach people how to apply those principles specifically to our industry.

PJ,

Thanks, well said. Dealing with personalities and ego's and also the way another can see, something totally different, than the way someone else would. I like to identify peoples strengths and weakness's, i can receive from their strengths, and HELP them in their weakness.

Steve Reno,

Yeah, i was a stupid kid back then, i remember i got 2 felony driving while suspended, back then. 35 years ago. I think thats why i said 2 Dui , i, transposed 2 Dui to recruiter. I was in so much trouble, i forget some of it . I Some of it is just mentally blocking that time period.

Now that i have totally become something new. I have never had another DUI, or suspension , i have to drive for a living too. Not just to the office and back home or the grocery .

I wasnt prepared for the question have you had any DUI's? Because Swift, trucker truth, say they only worry about DUI's 7 years back.

So i am prepared to be honest, i dont want to add the caveat, and if you find something, i forgot, it wasnt intentional, and if i harmed you in that, i will pay you back........

But i will say that if it comes down too it, and someone gives me chance to say something, rather than just slam the door in my face.

Not sure if anyone is still following this thread, but Brad I can say this:

About six weeks ago I made the mistake of not doing thorough research on company requirements, and in my zeal and excitement, rushed to complete applications before I was qualified for consideration at a few companies. Many of the large carriers will not consider you as a candidate unless you are able to start training within 30 days, and will only keep your application on file for this long. When I saw on Driver Pulse that one of my applications was "rejected," my initial reaction was surprise and disappointment, because I didn't know how this could be. Turns out I spelled out RIGHT THERE on the application that I couldn't start training for 90 days, so naturally, by that company's policy, my application went straight in the reject pile. Kearsey was extremely helpful in making it clear that there could be countless reasons for an application to be rejected, so it helps to get all the facts straight on company requirements first, BEFORE jumping to conclusions.

After about a week or two, the company's recruiter eventually connected with me and we were eventually able to clear everything up. We have since had several excellent exchanges, and she's gone above and beyond to answer questions and provide information in as thorough, helpful, and professional a manner as possible. Having been in sales myself for over ten years before considering this career change, and knowing the pressures of being in commission sales, I've been very impressed with her professionalism. It speaks volumes to the company's culture and confirms my original interest in them.

Obviously our circumstances are quite different, but I'll get around to my point: recruiters are BUSY and have a very STRESSFUL job! Getting antsy over just 48 hours without a reply, and then claiming she had a *****y attitude about the misunderstanding, won't do you any favors in the long run. Keep in mind, it's a recruiter's job to strike an honest balance between the rosiest possible picture of a company, and the realities and hard truths of the work. It's not easy. I'm new in this journey, but I'm sure that recruiters are among the EASIEST people you'll have to interact with at any company, let alone shippers, consignees who take forever to unload you, or people who cut you off in traffic.