Company Sponsorship Or Paid CDL Training W/Pet-FRIENDLY Policy?

Exactly. Quite a few contradictions in his posts.

So, how do you survive for at least two weeks without your ESA?

I have not contradicted myself anywhere. Perhaps your small trucking minds cannot comprehend intellectual dialect? At no point have I contradicted myself anywhere. What I'm see is a bunch of small minded pecemistic uneducated individuals who impossibly made it as moderators spamming a good thread for prospective truckers that are going to encounter this problem going into trucking, to the point I'm now going to have to start a whole new thread to clean out your spamming and irrelevant posts to the topic so future newcomers can actually get helpful advice instead of seeing nasty and irrelevent comments from people who are supposed to be moderators.

Well stated. I will be very interested in the outcome of this particular situation.

For all future readers....

What you need to take away from this thread is that trucking is unlike most jobs. A typo in an email never kills anyone but a dog jumping in the air or barking and distracting the driver absolutely can. Companies CANNOT be forced to put public safety ahead of personal safety as it is not "reasonable" to accommodate that. I knew a trainer who had to remove their fish tank from the truck because it distracted the student.

As truckers we are held to a higher standard for safety and that is evident by blowing a .04 as a DUI instead of the national .08 for cars and "normal" drivers. Any alcohol in the system puts you out of service. Everything about our job involves safety. We get inspected, have our hours limited and must provide documents and drug tests upon request. Our disabilities CAN limit our opportunities, our medications CAN cause us to be rejected by companies, and our medical and mental history as well as work history IS required and NOT protected by HIPAA (Health Information Portability & Accountability Act). If you refuse to supply information, you will be rejected. If you lie and omit information you can be rejected, and even blacklisted as no company will trust you.

It is contradictory to state "I am not asking for special treatment, I only want to use their normal pet policy"....."but I need my dog at orientation and throughout training, during which I do not want to be OTR". None of that is normal in trucking. It is also selfish and inconsiderate to want your needs met without caring about the needs of others. Such as the trainer, room mate or company.

We went through this whole conversation about depression and suicidal tendencies for nothing. It is quite possible he will get rejected for lack of work history. However, the suicidal tendencies alone would be enough to prevent him from getting a CDL.... Which is a PRIVILEGE not a right.

BTW.... I have degrees in Political Science/History and Human & Social Services. And i tend to get information from experienced truckers and company management over someone who hasn't even been to an orientation yet or held a key of a truck in their hands.

Oh? How is Keasys comment well stated? You must not have read my bio here. My dog is TRAINED by professionals on the Hangin' Tree Ranch, and also by me who has worked with dogs most of my work history. You listen to a woman who says negative things like "if he has proper work history" to criticize me, and boasts about herself to make her seem more than what she is? If you've taken the psychology courses I have coinciding with your claims, then why haven't you critisized Kearsy on the psychological factors she's exhibiting, but choose to target me when I argue legal points I know better on than rumoring truckers? You know what's funny, if I actually spoke to my recruiter today on some of what you guys are saying, and he basically stated you guys a rumor-mongerers who don't know what your talking about. According to my recruiter my DoT is what Pam Transport and Driver Solutions uses for my employment, nothing else, no company doctor's, etc. And I was truthful on it. Stop making false implications and heresy.

I am starting to believe he just wanted to take his dog with him for free boarding.

but you will need to find a boarding facility for 2 weeks after Driver Solutions because Pam Transport requires you to team-drive for 2 weeks with a Pam Transport trainer.

So after all that arguing with us . we were correct and you are not permitted to take the dog onto an OTR training truck.

Thank you for clarifying that for us

While that's a nice thought it's not accurate. You don't have a PHD in anything. That is a complete lie. Someone with a Doctorette's isn't as ignorant as you are expressing yourself to be here. You get what you give in life, follow the golden rule and do unto others as you would do unto them. Get harsh and condescending with people, and they'll nip you right back.

I'm hoping the dog will start his own account on here so me may get a straight answer.

Get a straight answer regarding what specifically Sir? I've answered and replied to your guys' spamming and off-topic posts. What do you want to know? What are you referencing?

Dude, the word is "doctorate" degree and I never said I have one. If you actually have a -Pre-Law degree, I would hope you know how to spell. But we are "uneducated", so what do we know. Your refusal to listen to experienced drivers along with your Jeckyl and Hyde personality plainly reveals you are emotionally immature and have no business coming anywhere near driving a truck. Your childish name-calling confirms your immaturity. We "uneducated I am going to guess you are in your late 20's and never was told "no" by your parents, so you have developed this attitude of entitlement.

You have contradicted yourself in your posts. Read them again

I am starting to believe he just wanted to take his dog with him for free boarding.

but you will need to find a boarding facility for 2 weeks after Driver Solutions because Pam Transport requires you to team-drive for 2 weeks with a Pam Transport trainer.

So after all that arguing with us . we were correct and you are not permitted to take the dog onto an OTR training truck.

Thank you for clarifying that for us

While that's a nice thought it's not accurate. You don't have a PHD in anything. That is a complete lie. Someone with a Doctorette's isn't as ignorant as you are expressing yourself to be here. You get what you give in life, follow the golden rule and do unto others as you would do unto them. Get harsh and condescending with people, and they'll nip you right back.

How about you actually pass your school's program, pass your State's driving test and get your CDL , not to mention get some actual work experience driving before you post any "helpful advice" to prospective drivers?

Your posts are entertaining, I'll give you that.

Exactly. Quite a few contradictions in his posts.

So, how do you survive for at least two weeks without your ESA?

I have not contradicted myself anywhere. Perhaps your small trucking minds cannot comprehend intellectual dialect? At no point have I contradicted myself anywhere. What I'm see is a bunch of small minded pecemistic uneducated individuals who impossibly made it as moderators spamming a good thread for prospective truckers that are going to encounter this problem going into trucking, to the point I'm now going to have to start a whole new thread to clean out your spamming and irrelevant posts to the topic so future newcomers can actually get helpful advice instead of seeing nasty and irrelevent comments from people who are supposed to be moderators.

I appreciate your insight Rob. I also appreciate your communication patterns much better than the others' here. From what I've seen here, I can't say I share your sentiment about Kearsy. She could be the greatest trainer in the world, but her mentality needs work. I'm sure it's meaningless in trucking, but I've noticed her pecimism and her big-headedness (no disrespect). Some of her comments are quite offensive and misrepresentive.

Again I do sincerely appreciate your insight, I have noticed you are the most intelligent Trucking Truth personelle that has communicated here. To answer your questions: 1. I do not intend on having any other pet in the truck except Jack 2. I intend to move very quickly from OTR to an Illinois Route, and if possible even a more local route to my hometown in Iroquois County. Lots of farms and grain elevators, theirs always CDL jobs open where I come from. 3. I was making good money from my business, and when covid-19 hit, I stopped. Most of my products were refurbished video game systems from repair factories in China. In the State of Illinois, Bruce Rauner (our previous Governor) cut state funding, forcing almost every homeless shelter to close in Illinois. There are only a few left in the whole state, and they charge you rent money or only give you 2 weeks. There is only one shelter in Illinois that is actually good, but it is closed until further notice due to covid-19. There is no available shelter in Illinois that keeps residents long enough to get a job and up on their feet. It's one of the biggest problems in the state of Illinois. Even if there were shelters available and viable, I'm not going to be going to them because of the types of people you are around. I first went to a shelter when my business failed, and I can say you are around some of the worst possible people imaginable, and that's not an exaggeration. You also have to smell farts, and share public bathrooms, and go though a bunch or requirements and rules. A grown man does not want to go live back with mom and dad with their rules after being an independent grown up for 10 years. That's what a shelter is. In the woods, I've got my own schedule, my own rules, my own ****ter, heated tent, I can smoke my pipe when I want, don't have to put up with slang ebonics or gangster activity, don't got to worry about Jack biting drug addicts, can go catch my fish and hunt my deer when I want, can eat when I want, can let Jack run freely when and where he wants, etc.. 4. While it's true I could go into town and get a job next week, I'm not willing to work minimum wage, or anything under $16 an hour. I've got enough money and enough credit to keep up warm, fed, healthy, etc until we get driving. Anymore questions please ask.

At no point have I refused to listen to anyone here. In fact if you pay attention to my replies, you'll see I actually thank and express my gratitude for the advice given. Certain elements of certain replies I responded to to correct inacurate assumptions however, but at no point have I not listened or adhered to experienced truckers voicing their experience. But I do not appreciate assumptions, accusations, or rude dialect. And I do not have split personality communication patterns, you need to straighten up how you speak with people and discontinue your false accusations. As for name calling, it is not my intent to call anyone names, to be rude or disrespectful in any way, I am simply using the words based on their definitions to express the accuracy of the truth. Not as an attack or retaliation to your behaviors, but dokey for their definitional purposes.

I want to apologize. It is obvious by your latest rants that you truly are mentally disabled and have some severe issues. Perhaps some learning disabilities as well since you refuse to believe what those in the industry have to tell you.

And you are correct.... A trucking company should indeed be forced to take every single suicidal, depressed person to ensure civil liberties rather than Protect public safety. As you stated suicidal people only kill themselves.... So the company is risking only a $150k truck. $50k trailer. And possibly millions of dollars in cargo is totally acceptable when the driver wants to end his life by driving off a cliff. Because after all.... He has rights.. I mean the privilege to a CDL.

Despite one vehicle causing a 70 vehicle pile up that could kill a dozen and injure many more, resulting in tens of million dollars in lawsuits.. it is totally acceptable and within the law for companies to hire anyone and everyone. Even those who hide their disorders and conditions. It is required by law for the company to risk its equity and reputation as well its contracts with customers so that a driver can feel entitled to all he can. It doesnt matter if the driver can perform the job or not.

Just give CDLs to everyone and the world will be a better place. Drug addicts and alcoholics whether in treatment or not should be allowed as well. After all.... Those are medical conditions so we might as well throw away the drug tests. Also, the DOT physical discriminates against any and all person suffering from physical ailments or conditions.... A guy with a history of seizures and heart attacks... No problem. It doesnt matter if his episode causes catastrophe. As long as his rights werent violated. So it is unconstitutional. They must be thrown away.

I agree. Totally.

How about you actually pass your school's program, pass your State's driving test and get your CDL , not to mention get some actual work experience driving before you post any "helpful advice" to prospective drivers?

Your posts are entertaining, I'll give you that.

Exactly. Quite a few contradictions in his posts.

So, how do you survive for at least two weeks without your ESA?

I have not contradicted myself anywhere. Perhaps your small trucking minds cannot comprehend intellectual dialect? At no point have I contradicted myself anywhere. What I'm see is a bunch of small minded pecemistic uneducated individuals who impossibly made it as moderators spamming a good thread for prospective truckers that are going to encounter this problem going into trucking, to the point I'm now going to have to start a whole new thread to clean out your spamming and irrelevant posts to the topic so future newcomers can actually get helpful advice instead of seeing nasty and irrelevent comments from people who are supposed to be moderators.

I am simply providing my insight from experience as a newcomer, sharing my obstacles, and the solutions for learning purposes. In response, what I see is sad lonely people picking on newbies all over this website to make themselves feel better, and then making high claims of perfection and nobility to falsely better or highten their image.

Picking on newbies who are sharing their experiences for others just because your experienced to make you feel better is going to have repurcussions. Cause and effect. Natural order. That's all I'm saying, I'm not going to sit here while you berrate me with false accusations and assumptions and try and say you know better than a doctor or better than my recruiter, because you don't, and you should learn how to be more respectful to people.