Ports Of Entry And Permits (NM, AZ, Etc.)

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Eben B.'s Comment
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Hey y’all, first time posting on here. New to trucking but have done a few cross country trips in a Hino box truck delivering art over the last few months. Two of the times, we’ve been flagged down to buy these permits in Arizona and New Mexico. It’s hard to find an answer as to why you have to buy these in these states and not others? We’re not oversize or overweight. Also, does anyone know how long the laws requiring these permits have been around? They seem to contradict the pretty solid idea behind the US Interstate System, and I wonder if more states are behind them as the federal government divests from public services.

Anyway, hope this isn’t something people ask every day and y’all are tired of talking about. Just curious and figured here would be the place to find out. Any help is appreciated!

Thanks, Eben

Interstate:

Commercial trade, business, movement of goods or money, or transportation from one state to another, regulated by the Federal Department Of Transportation (DOT).

PackRat's Comment
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Commercial Vehicle Use Permits maybe?

Rick S.'s Comment
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Is your vehicle registered as a COMMERCIAL VEHICLE (apportioned tags)?

There's a bunch of folks that run "outlaw" - without MC/DOT numbers, apportioned tags, LOGGING HOS , etc.

If you are hauling COMMERCIALLY (goods for sale - transport for hire).

To further answer your questions - kinda need to figure out HOW you are operating first.

If you are an owner operator - operating in INTERSTATE COMMERCE - there are regs you must adhere to.

Check out Compliance List for Owner Operators. "Permits" are typically required for commercial vehicles whose IRP Registration DOES NOT INCLUDE THOSE PARTICULAR STATES (called a "Trip Permit").

Sounds like you might be running outlaw - if you are not familiar with compliance requirements for CMV's.

Rick

Owner Operator:

An owner-operator is a driver who either owns or leases the truck they are driving. A self-employed driver.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

CMV:

Commercial Motor Vehicle

A CMV is a vehicle that is used as part of a business, is involved in interstate commerce, and may fit any of these descriptions:

  • Weighs 10,001 pounds or more
  • Has a gross vehicle weight rating or gross combination weight rating of 10,001 pounds or more
  • Is designed or used to transport 16 or more passengers (including the driver) not for compensation
  • Is designed or used to transport 9 or more passengers (including the driver) for compensation
  • Is transporting hazardous materials in a quantity requiring placards

Interstate Commerce:

Commercial trade, business, movement of goods or money, or transportation from one state to another, regulated by the Federal Department Of Transportation (DOT).

Interstate:

Commercial trade, business, movement of goods or money, or transportation from one state to another, regulated by the Federal Department Of Transportation (DOT).

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Dan F.'s Comment
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Oregon New Mexico Kentucky and New York require permits for all commercial vehicles regardless of weight. In the case of New Mexico aside from the approximately $10 yearly filing each quarter you are supposed to file the total average weight with the number of miles traveled through the state in total So you should do this every quarter right after you file your IFTA.

Arizona I would have to check on but I believe that is only if you are picking up or delivering in Arizona (port of entry thing)

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