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Robert 's Comment
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Been driving for 3 years, mainly regional stuff, drop and hook , dry van type stuff, always used electronic logging devices which are quite straightforward. Presently working part time so last week I agreed to do some extra work, casual hauling for another company, a 'mom and pop' type set up. The trucks and trailers are old, and they do not have electronic logging. The work involves running out of state, but only 8-10 hours in total. When I turned up as arranged the boss wasn't around, a yard worker simply pointed at the truck and said take the empty trailer to so and so and come back with a loaded trailer. My concern is what about keeping a log, do I utilize a paper one, and is there a generic one or does it have to have the company logo on it? What about the hours I accrue with my other employer, do I need to carry hard copy print outs of these hours in case I get stopped by a DOT inspector? They also said because of Covid there is now no Bill of Lading paperwork, it's apparently emailed electronically but does this seem right, would this satisfy a roadside DOT inspector? Also the trailer I hauled had no inspection stickers displayed, I did query but they said bring back and they would take care of it? Please try and be constructive, I have found that the rules around trucking seems so confusing and sometimes I find found you get told different things depending on who you ask, also the rules aren't always clear especially in times of COVID. Before I do another run I will insist on speaking to the owner about some of these issues but in the meantime your feedback will prove helpful.

Regional:

Regional Route

Usually refers to a driver hauling freight within one particular region of the country. You might be in the "Southeast Regional Division" or "Midwest Regional". Regional route drivers often get home on the weekends which is one of the main appeals for this type of route.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Dry Van:

A trailer or truck that that requires no special attention, such as refrigeration, that hauls regular palletted, boxed, or floor-loaded freight. The most common type of trailer in trucking.

Drop And Hook:

Drop and hook means the driver will drop one trailer and hook to another one.

In order to speed up the pickup and delivery process a driver may be instructed to drop their empty trailer and hook to one that is already loaded, or drop their loaded trailer and hook to one that is already empty. That way the driver will not have to wait for a trailer to be loaded or unloaded.

Bird-One's Comment
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Hi Robert, been running with a small outfit for almost 3 years. Great company. I’ve been running paper since the day I started with them. I’m legal due to the truck being a 95. 99 or older you do not need elogs. Our logs already have company name and address printed on there. Rest is on us to pen in. Also has a dvir on the bottom for trailers. It’s a single loose leaf sheet of paper. Now exception to that is if your are not going over 150 miles in a day than it doesn’t matter the year of the truck. And you will only need a hours log on you. Meaning you just have your start and end times. trailer numbers, etc logged. I’ve had my logs inspected numerous times. I keep em in a binder so you can just hand em right over.

Hope that made sense.

Elog:

Electronic Onboard Recorder

Electronic Logbook

A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.

Elogs:

Electronic Onboard Recorder

Electronic Logbook

A device which records the amount of time a vehicle has been driven. If the vehicle is not being driven, the operator will manually input whether or not he/she is on duty or not.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

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