Drug Testing
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Timothy, I am truly sorry about your predicament. There is just so much in your statement that sounds odd that I don't even know where to start.
You say you've been driving for 20 years, yet you make it sound like this drug test was unusual because you didn't get to observe it! I have never observed any of my drug tests. They are always "sent off." They have to go to a lab for the actual test. That is standard procedure.
You say you can't even appeal it. That's not true. You can request a re-test. Typically they set some of your first sample aside for a re-test just in case something goes wrong (like a false positive result).
Was this a hair test or a urine test?
I took new drug test in ohio one that they send away came back positive I was not allow to observe it I been driving for 20 years never failed a test cause I don't do drugs now no will hire me I can't even appeal it lawyer wants 5000 up front no promises do have any suggestions
I have to say, at least you didn't make up a story about your friends tricking you by putting out a bowl of weed gummies. I would request a retest. If you happened to have used marijuana however, remember it can stay in your system and be detected around the 30 day mark. Most other drugs have a 3 or 4 day clearance mark. What drug did they say you tested positive for? It should be written on the copy of the failure paperwork you recieved.
The fact is I don't do drugs they wouldn't let me retest I even offered to pay for it iv talk to everyone at Clearinghouse-Registration-Driver even if the tech made a mistake my name is on it what I need help with u know any trucking company will hire me
I took new drug test in ohio one that they send away came back positive I was not allow to observe it I been driving for 20 years never failed a test cause I don't do drugs now no will hire me I can't even appeal it lawyer wants 5000 up front no promises do have any suggestions
I have to say, at least you didn't make up a story about your friends tricking you by putting out a bowl of weed gummies. I would request a retest. If you happened to have used marijuana however, remember it can stay in your system and be detected around the 30 day mark. Most other drugs have a 3 or 4 day clearance mark. What drug did they say you tested positive for? It should be written on the copy of the failure paperwork you recieved.
I just took a quick glance thru the FMCSA Clearinghouse site because I have to get my load in about 1.5 hrs...so I'll look thru it more while I'm waiting.
What I got from it is that all employers are required to check all drivers that hold a CDL and a CLP. Until I read more info, I would say that you won't find anyone to hire you before you go thru the SAP program. I thought I saw something about a rebuttal for drivers, but like I said I'm getting ready to go pick up my load and I need to go through in read the different points of the program more thoroughly.
I have never done drugs in my almost 70 years, and I understand being upset about it if I were to test positive. However, just saying you have never done drugs, that there's nothing you can do under the Clearing House program, and is there a company that will hire you just doesn't feel right to me. There have been steps to be able to be retested...this site has helped other people who have tested positive, and they always get a retest. So I'm not sure why you don't get to. And I'm not sure why you've not mentioned the SAP program. Anyway, somebody will be along shortly with more information then I currently have.
Laura
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
CSA:
Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)
The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle
FMCSA:
Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration
The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.
What Does The FMCSA Do?
- Commercial Drivers' Licenses
- Data and Analysis
- Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
- Research and Technology
- Safety Assistance
- Support and Information Sharing
SAP:
Substance Abuse Professional
The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.
Fm:
Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager
The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.CLP:
Commercial Learner's Permit
Before getting their CDL, commercial drivers will receive their commercial learner's permit (CLP) upon passing the written portion of the CDL exam. They will not have to retake the written exam to get their CDL.
I have had to deal with "surprise" positive tests with my permit students. Nicest guy & great student one day gets a phone call. "Cocaine"! Swift automatically dumped him out to the street, no negotiation, no retest, no bus ticket home. This is a company prerogative, no Federal law applies.
However you should be able to work with the drug test lab if you do have prescriptions or other circumstances that mitigate the results.
I have had to deal with "surprise" positive tests with my permit students. Nicest guy & great student one day gets a phone call. "Cocaine"! Swift automatically dumped him out to the street, no negotiation, no retest, no bus ticket home. This is a company prerogative, no Federal law applies.
However you should be able to work with the drug test lab if you do have prescriptions or other circumstances that mitigate the results.
Yeah like errol said. The company has the option to allow you to retest to keep your job, some do, some don't. The lab you submitted your sample to should definitely allow the retest and if its different you can use that to challenge the submission to the clearinghouse I believe.
BMI:
Body mass index (BMI)
BMI is a formula that uses weight and height to estimate body fat. For most people, BMI provides a reasonable estimate of body fat. The BMI's biggest weakness is that it doesn't consider individual factors such as bone or muscle mass. BMI may:
- Underestimate body fat for older adults or other people with low muscle mass
- Overestimate body fat for people who are very muscular and physically fit
It's quite common, especially for men, to fall into the "overweight" category if you happen to be stronger than average. If you're pretty strong but in good shape then pay no attention.
I have had to deal with "surprise" positive tests with my permit students. Nicest guy & great student one day gets a phone call. "Cocaine"! Swift automatically dumped him out to the street, no negotiation, no retest, no bus ticket home. This is a company prerogative, no Federal law applies.
However you should be able to work with the drug test lab if you do have prescriptions or other circumstances that mitigate the results.
Yeah like errol said. The company has the option to allow you to retest to keep your job, some do, some don't. The lab you submitted your sample to should definitely allow the retest and if its different you can use that to challenge the submission to the clearinghouse I believe.
Iv
Iv done everything and talked to a lot of people what I need is to a company to hire me I got screwed by the system maybe I am one a thousand that got some tech screwed up on my test nothing I can do about it but people say there are companies out there that will hire u other than the big boys thanks
BMI:
Body mass index (BMI)
BMI is a formula that uses weight and height to estimate body fat. For most people, BMI provides a reasonable estimate of body fat. The BMI's biggest weakness is that it doesn't consider individual factors such as bone or muscle mass. BMI may:
- Underestimate body fat for older adults or other people with low muscle mass
- Overestimate body fat for people who are very muscular and physically fit
It's quite common, especially for men, to fall into the "overweight" category if you happen to be stronger than average. If you're pretty strong but in good shape then pay no attention.
I have had to deal with "surprise" positive tests with my permit students. Nicest guy & great student one day gets a phone call. "Cocaine"! Swift automatically dumped him out to the street, no negotiation, no retest, no bus ticket home. This is a company prerogative, no Federal law applies.
However you should be able to work with the drug test lab if you do have prescriptions or other circumstances that mitigate the results.
Yeah like errol said. The company has the option to allow you to retest to keep your job, some do, some don't. The lab you submitted your sample to should definitely allow the retest and if its different you can use that to challenge the submission to the clearinghouse I believe.
Iv
Iv done everything and talked to a lot of people what I need is to a company to hire me I got screwed by the system maybe I am one a thousand that got some tech screwed up on my test nothing I can do about it but people say there are companies out there that will hire u other than the big boys thanks
I'm just a 'truck driver's wife' (of 20 plus) but... if you don't care to 'nip this in the bud' now, it will haunt you forever, BUT FOR.. 1099 companies on Craigslist. You've been given info from the pros. The above is my huband's 2 cents.. as she shakes his head. NO COMPANIES worth their salt (no pun intended, you probably couldn't even spreat THAT for the DOT until you CLEAR THIS UP!!!) That FMCSA Clearinghouse is .. no joke.
Worst case scenario>? S.A.P. ...... so ?!?!? FIGHT it.. Don't succumb if you are innocent!
Best to you, sir!
~ Anne ~
CSA:
Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)
The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle
FMCSA:
Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration
The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.
What Does The FMCSA Do?
- Commercial Drivers' Licenses
- Data and Analysis
- Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
- Research and Technology
- Safety Assistance
- Support and Information Sharing
DOT:
Department Of Transportation
A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.
State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.
BMI:
Body mass index (BMI)
BMI is a formula that uses weight and height to estimate body fat. For most people, BMI provides a reasonable estimate of body fat. The BMI's biggest weakness is that it doesn't consider individual factors such as bone or muscle mass. BMI may:
- Underestimate body fat for older adults or other people with low muscle mass
- Overestimate body fat for people who are very muscular and physically fit
It's quite common, especially for men, to fall into the "overweight" category if you happen to be stronger than average. If you're pretty strong but in good shape then pay no attention.
Fm:
Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager
The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
I need help people I to know how to get retested what company would hire me
I have had to deal with "surprise" positive tests with my permit students. Nicest guy & great student one day gets a phone call. "Cocaine"! Swift automatically dumped him out to the street, no negotiation, no retest, no bus ticket home. This is a company prerogative, no Federal law applies.
However you should be able to work with the drug test lab if you do have prescriptions or other circumstances that mitigate the results.
Yeah like errol said. The company has the option to allow you to retest to keep your job, some do, some don't. The lab you submitted your sample to should definitely allow the retest and if its different you can use that to challenge the submission to the clearinghouse I believe.
Iv
Iv done everything and talked to a lot of people what I need is to a company to hire me I got screwed by the system maybe I am one a thousand that got some tech screwed up on my test nothing I can do about it but people say there are companies out there that will hire u other than the big boys thanks
BMI:
Body mass index (BMI)
BMI is a formula that uses weight and height to estimate body fat. For most people, BMI provides a reasonable estimate of body fat. The BMI's biggest weakness is that it doesn't consider individual factors such as bone or muscle mass. BMI may:
- Underestimate body fat for older adults or other people with low muscle mass
- Overestimate body fat for people who are very muscular and physically fit
It's quite common, especially for men, to fall into the "overweight" category if you happen to be stronger than average. If you're pretty strong but in good shape then pay no attention.
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I took new drug test in ohio one that they send away came back positive I was not allow to observe it I been driving for 20 years never failed a test cause I don't do drugs now no will hire me I can't even appeal it lawyer wants 5000 up front no promises do have any suggestions