In Today's Episode Of "what Makes People Look Down On Truck Drivers"

I'm going to play Devil's advocate here the point is if you think it is illegal than it probably is. I'm pretty sure that parking like the CR Driver is not legal in any state no matter the circumstances! Like I posted in my last post I should have added the caviot that the situation in Virginia was Pre- FMCSA HOS Rule change. I propose this scenario: What if another driver slammed into the CR driver who would be at Fault? I get it S##t happens and we all have had to park some place sketchy and maybe bent the rules but it doesn't excuse the fact that that CR driver is creating a potential hazard and breaking the law.

If the CR England driver was stationary and is hit, it is the moving vehicle at fault.

Risk control is one thing, and I agree, the CR England driver should have had an alarm set to check to get into a proper parking spot. I've done that before.

But at the same time, if he's parking that late, he's going to /remain/ parked into the daylight hours when, barring some really specific regions, there is always room for a truck to park.

This is really making a mountain out of a molehill, especially because if there's room for trucks to pull out of the spots in front of the England driver, there's room for trucks to back into those spots.

If you have to search far and wide for a justification for your actions and you arrived at anything other than "I did it right" you did it wrong. The rest is stink on the wind. That's the difference between a true professional and someone paying lip service. Again you do, you. You can settle for it and lie to yourself and everyone one else about how you're top tier. But you'll know your not.

Keith A wrote:

I'm going to play Devil's advocate here the point is if you think it is illegal than it probably is. I'm pretty sure that parking like the CR Driver is not legal in any state no matter the circumstances! Like I posted in my last post I should have added the caviot that the situation in Virginia was Pre- FMCSA HOS Rule change. I propose this scenario: What if another driver slammed into the CR driver who would be at Fault? I get it S##t happens and we all have had to park some place sketchy and maybe bent the rules but it doesn't excuse the fact that that CR driver is creating a potential hazard and breaking the law.

If the CR England driver was stationary and is hit, it is the moving vehicle at fault.

Risk control is one thing, and I agree, the CR England driver should have had an alarm set to check to get into a proper parking spot. I've done that before.

But at the same time, if he's parking that late, he's going to /remain/ parked into the daylight hours when, barring some really specific regions, there is always room for a truck to park.

This is really making a mountain out of a molehill, especially because if there's room for trucks to pull out of the spots in front of the England driver, there's room for trucks to back into those spots.

Keith I'll have to disagree with you on who would be at fault in the scenario that I proposed. The CR driver is illegally parked! There is no other way to look at it! Thus the CR Driver is a hazard and would be at Fault! I know that we have some members on the forum that are former law enforcement I would ask them how they would determine at fault in this scenario?

If you notice all of the experienced drivers are all saying the same thing, nothing wrong with it. If you are smart you will use this post as a learning experience. However I don't think we collectively can convince you that you are wrong even though you most definitely are wrong. Our decades if not centuries of combined experience are saying the same thing yet you stand by your belief that he was wrong. I have only contacted someone's company one time. I took a few pictures of a Canadian driver standing on the top step of his truck taking a leak in a Pilot parking lot not 30 or 40 meters away from the store that he walked into 10 minutes later to get a coffee. To top it off he was in plain view of the McDonalds drive through line of traffic. His company is using the pics as a training aid having all drivers complete a course on unacceptable behavior although they are probably blurring the penile part in the pictures. THAT is wrong. Making a spot, drawing the curtains and getting some sleep is not wrong. It's not ideal but it is perfectly acceptable and much better than several alternatives.

If you notice all of the experienced drivers are all saying the same thing, nothing wrong with it. If you are smart you will use this post as a learning experience. However I don't think we collectively can convince you that you are wrong even though you most definitely are wrong. Our decades if not centuries of combined experience are saying the same thing yet you stand by your belief that he was wrong. I have only contacted someone's company one time. I took a few pictures of a Canadian driver standing on the top step of his truck taking a leak in a Pilot parking lot not 30 or 40 meters away from the store that he walked into 10 minutes later to get a coffee. To top it off he was in plain view of the McDonalds drive through line of traffic. His company is using the pics as a training aid having all drivers complete a course on unacceptable behavior although they are probably blurring the penile part in the pictures. THAT is wrong. Making a spot, drawing the curtains and getting some sleep is not wrong. It's not ideal but it is perfectly acceptable and much better than several alternatives.

WTF ???

If you have to search far and wide for a justification for your actions and you arrived at anything other than "I did it right" you did it wrong. The rest is stink on the wind. That's the difference between a true professional and someone paying lip service. Again you do, you. You can settle for it and lie to yourself and everyone one else about how you're top tier. But you'll know your not.

You need to chill.

This is nothing...stop taking cheap shots at the experienced drivers in here. You are green... this is nothing the get all worked up about. Happens all the time.

Chris replied to Keith...

Keith A wrote:

I'm going to play Devil's advocate here the point is if you think it is illegal than it probably is. I'm pretty sure that parking like the CR Driver is not legal in any state no matter the circumstances! Like I posted in my last post I should have added the caviot that the situation in Virginia was Pre- FMCSA HOS Rule change. I propose this scenario: What if another driver slammed into the CR driver who would be at Fault? I get it S##t happens and we all have had to park some place sketchy and maybe bent the rules but it doesn't excuse the fact that that CR driver is creating a potential hazard and breaking the law.

If the CR England driver was stationary and is hit, it is the moving vehicle at fault.

Risk control is one thing, and I agree, the CR England driver should have had an alarm set to check to get into a proper parking spot. I've done that before.

But at the same time, if he's parking that late, he's going to /remain/ parked into the daylight hours when, barring some really specific regions, there is always room for a truck to park.

This is really making a mountain out of a molehill, especially because if there's room for trucks to pull out of the spots in front of the England driver, there's room for trucks to back into those spots.

Keith I'll have to disagree with you on who would be at fault in the scenario that I proposed. The CR driver is illegally parked! There is no other way to look at it! Thus the CR Driver is a hazard and would be at Fault! I know that we have some members on the forum that are former law enforcement I would ask them how they would determine at fault in this scenario?

Chris I suggest you ask your safety folks how your company would address one of their drivers hitting the CRE truck. It’s likely a preventable.

Best advice when confronted with a situation like this... move on. That way there zero possibility of a close encounter with this truck.

If you notice all of the experienced drivers are all saying the same thing, nothing wrong with it. If you are smart you will use this post as a learning experience. However I don't think we collectively can convince you that you are wrong even though you most definitely are wrong. Our decades if not centuries of combined experience are saying the same thing yet you stand by your belief that he was wrong. I have only contacted someone's company one time. I took a few pictures of a Canadian driver standing on the top step of his truck taking a leak in a Pilot parking lot not 30 or 40 meters away from the store that he walked into 10 minutes later to get a coffee. To top it off he was in plain view of the McDonalds drive through line of traffic. His company is using the pics as a training aid having all drivers complete a course on unacceptable behavior although they are probably blurring the penile part in the pictures. THAT is wrong. Making a spot, drawing the curtains and getting some sleep is not wrong. It's not ideal but it is perfectly acceptable and much better than several alternatives.

Totally agree!

If you have to search far and wide for a justification for your actions and you arrived at anything other than "I did it right" you did it wrong. The rest is stink on the wind. That's the difference between a true professional and someone paying lip service. Again you do, you. You can settle for it and lie to yourself and everyone one else about how you're top tier. But you'll know your not.

Awful full of yourself for a greenhorn driver, hopefully when you do something someone else deems "unprofessional" they'll call your company and let them know their disapproval.

If you let little things like this bother you to this degree you will have a short career.

Totally agree...

If you have to search far and wide for a justification for your actions and you arrived at anything other than "I did it right" you did it wrong. The rest is stink on the wind. That's the difference between a true professional and someone paying lip service. Again you do, you. You can settle for it and lie to yourself and everyone one else about how you're top tier. But you'll know your not.

Awful full of yourself for a greenhorn driver, hopefully when you do something someone else deems "unprofessional" they'll call your company and let them know their disapproval.

If you let little things like this bother you to this degree you will have a short career.