When Not To Tell The Truth..
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When you are self employed, prospective employers can use your tax returns to fill the years you were self employed. Barring having those, you may be able to use a notarized letter from a friend or family that states what you were doing during that time. Theres a steering wheel for you, you may have to try a little harder than most to find it. You can't burn your name in trucking.....APPLY EVERYWHERE.....Some one will understand your situation.....just keep your name infront of them.....
HOS:
Hours Of Service
HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Your biggest problem is that you let your license get suspended. This is a huge no-no for trucking companies. Like Starcar said, just apply everywhere and see who will take you on. Take Starcar's advice about proving your "self-employment". Besides that, just apply everywhere and be up front about it. Make sure you tell the truth. They'll find out sooner or later and when they do you'll get fired and have to go home on your own expenses.
Yea the gap in employment can be worked around but a suspension can not. You can't hide it either but since it was last year most companies want any suspension to be more than a year old.
When you are self employed, prospective employers can use your tax returns to fill the years you were self employed. Barring having those, you may be able to use a notarized letter from a friend or family that states what you were doing during that time. Theres a steering wheel for you, you may have to try a little harder than most to find it. You can't burn your name in trucking.....APPLY EVERYWHERE.....Some one will understand your situation.....just keep your name infront of them.....
Hi Star, I was in Portugal and only returned in Dec., I think I'm going to go to SAGE@LCTI and see what happens from there..thanks
HOS:
Hours Of Service
HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
When you are self employed, prospective employers can use your tax returns to fill the years you were self employed. Barring having those, you may be able to use a notarized letter from a friend or family that states what you were doing during that time. Theres a steering wheel for you, you may have to try a little harder than most to find it. You can't burn your name in trucking.....APPLY EVERYWHERE.....Some one will understand your situation.....just keep your name infront of them.....
Hi Star, I was in Portugal and only returned in Dec., I think I'm going to go to SAGE@LCTI and see what happens from there..thanks
So you're going to go to a Private School? By all means go ahead. But make sure you have companies interested in you before you fork out the money for the school. The last thing you want is to spend 5 grand and get your license but not able to find a company that will hire you. So make sure you have a list of prehires. Just looking out for you sir!
Prehire:
What Exactly Is A Pre-Hire Letter?
Pre-hire letters are acceptance letters from trucking companies to students, or even potential students, to verify placement. The trucking companies are saying in writing that the student, or potential student, appears to meet the company's minimum hiring requirements and is welcome to attend their orientation at the company’s expense once he or she graduates from truck driving school and has their CDL in hand.
We have an excellent article that will help you Understand The Pre-Hire Process.
A Pre-Hire Letter Is Not A Guarantee Of Employment
The people that receive a pre-hire letter are people who meet the company's minimum hiring requirements, but it is not an employment contract. It is an invitation to orientation, and the orientation itself is a prerequisite to employment.
During the orientation you will get a physical, drug screen, and background check done. These and other qualifications must be met before someone in orientation is officially hired.
Prehires:
What Exactly Is A Pre-Hire Letter?
Pre-hire letters are acceptance letters from trucking companies to students, or even potential students, to verify placement. The trucking companies are saying in writing that the student, or potential student, appears to meet the company's minimum hiring requirements and is welcome to attend their orientation at the company’s expense once he or she graduates from truck driving school and has their CDL in hand.
We have an excellent article that will help you Understand The Pre-Hire Process.
A Pre-Hire Letter Is Not A Guarantee Of Employment
The people that receive a pre-hire letter are people who meet the company's minimum hiring requirements, but it is not an employment contract. It is an invitation to orientation, and the orientation itself is a prerequisite to employment.
During the orientation you will get a physical, drug screen, and background check done. These and other qualifications must be met before someone in orientation is officially hired.
HOS:
Hours Of Service
HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
When you are self employed, prospective employers can use your tax returns to fill the years you were self employed. Barring having those, you may be able to use a notarized letter from a friend or family that states what you were doing during that time. Theres a steering wheel for you, you may have to try a little harder than most to find it. You can't burn your name in trucking.....APPLY EVERYWHERE.....Some one will understand your situation.....just keep your name infront of them.....
Hi Star, I was in Portugal and only returned in Dec., I think I'm going to go to SAGE@LCTI and see what happens from there..thanks
So you're going to go to a Private School? By all means go ahead. But make sure you have companies interested in you before you fork out the money for the school. The last thing you want is to spend 5 grand and get your license but not able to find a company that will hire you. So make sure you have a list of prehires. Just looking out for you sir!
That's one of my concerns and I mentioned that in my OP, But I guess that's a risk I have to take. I hoping that once I have the CDL from a reputable schools, they may overlook some of the petty stuff..thanks again
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Prehire:
What Exactly Is A Pre-Hire Letter?
Pre-hire letters are acceptance letters from trucking companies to students, or even potential students, to verify placement. The trucking companies are saying in writing that the student, or potential student, appears to meet the company's minimum hiring requirements and is welcome to attend their orientation at the company’s expense once he or she graduates from truck driving school and has their CDL in hand.
We have an excellent article that will help you Understand The Pre-Hire Process.
A Pre-Hire Letter Is Not A Guarantee Of Employment
The people that receive a pre-hire letter are people who meet the company's minimum hiring requirements, but it is not an employment contract. It is an invitation to orientation, and the orientation itself is a prerequisite to employment.
During the orientation you will get a physical, drug screen, and background check done. These and other qualifications must be met before someone in orientation is officially hired.
Prehires:
What Exactly Is A Pre-Hire Letter?
Pre-hire letters are acceptance letters from trucking companies to students, or even potential students, to verify placement. The trucking companies are saying in writing that the student, or potential student, appears to meet the company's minimum hiring requirements and is welcome to attend their orientation at the company’s expense once he or she graduates from truck driving school and has their CDL in hand.
We have an excellent article that will help you Understand The Pre-Hire Process.
A Pre-Hire Letter Is Not A Guarantee Of Employment
The people that receive a pre-hire letter are people who meet the company's minimum hiring requirements, but it is not an employment contract. It is an invitation to orientation, and the orientation itself is a prerequisite to employment.
During the orientation you will get a physical, drug screen, and background check done. These and other qualifications must be met before someone in orientation is officially hired.
HOS:
Hours Of Service
HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.EPU:
Electric Auxiliary Power Units
Electric APUs have started gaining acceptance. These electric APUs use battery packs instead of the diesel engine on traditional APUs as a source of power. The APU's battery pack is charged when the truck is in motion. When the truck is idle, the stored energy in the battery pack is then used to power an air conditioner, heater, and other devices
When you are self employed, prospective employers can use your tax returns to fill the years you were self employed. Barring having those, you may be able to use a notarized letter from a friend or family that states what you were doing during that time. Theres a steering wheel for you, you may have to try a little harder than most to find it. You can't burn your name in trucking.....APPLY EVERYWHERE.....Some one will understand your situation.....just keep your name infront of them.....
Hi Star, I was in Portugal and only returned in Dec., I think I'm going to go to SAGE@LCTI and see what happens from there..thanks
So you're going to go to a Private School? By all means go ahead. But make sure you have companies interested in you before you fork out the money for the school. The last thing you want is to spend 5 grand and get your license but not able to find a company that will hire you. So make sure you have a list of prehires. Just looking out for you sir!
That's one of my concerns and I mentioned that in my OP, But I guess that's a risk I have to take. I hoping that once I have the CDL from a reputable schools, they may overlook some of the petty stuff..thanks again
Eh, man, That is a giant risk. And honestly I don't see you looking any better just because you already have your license. You'll still need to go on the road with a trainer and do all that good, fun stuff.
I urge you, you need to apply to every company out there before you sign up. I say every company because it won't hurt. You need to basically go fishing with these trucking companies. If you apply to 20 companies, and 3 accept you, that will tell you that you will have a job. But if none take you on then you'll have to wait more for that license suspension.
Listen, you have a few mess ups on your record. Getting a license won't make it any better. You need to use your tax record or have numerous notarized letters stating that your self employment is true.
Just because you have a license won't allow the company to turn a blind eye on it. You have more pressing issuing than "I don't have my license."
So seriously man, you're taking a giant gamble here that I don't see you winning. Ask yourself this, what if you are not able to get hired after you get your license? If you take too long to get a job then you'll need to take a refresher course or have to redo the entire training with the company. So all that money was wasted.
I can't tell you how important it is to always be prepared. Don't ever approach this industry with a "we'll see how it goes from there" perspective. Trucking has a funny way of ruining your plans and turning the tables on you. Its hard to describe..
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Prehire:
What Exactly Is A Pre-Hire Letter?
Pre-hire letters are acceptance letters from trucking companies to students, or even potential students, to verify placement. The trucking companies are saying in writing that the student, or potential student, appears to meet the company's minimum hiring requirements and is welcome to attend their orientation at the company’s expense once he or she graduates from truck driving school and has their CDL in hand.
We have an excellent article that will help you Understand The Pre-Hire Process.
A Pre-Hire Letter Is Not A Guarantee Of Employment
The people that receive a pre-hire letter are people who meet the company's minimum hiring requirements, but it is not an employment contract. It is an invitation to orientation, and the orientation itself is a prerequisite to employment.
During the orientation you will get a physical, drug screen, and background check done. These and other qualifications must be met before someone in orientation is officially hired.
Prehires:
What Exactly Is A Pre-Hire Letter?
Pre-hire letters are acceptance letters from trucking companies to students, or even potential students, to verify placement. The trucking companies are saying in writing that the student, or potential student, appears to meet the company's minimum hiring requirements and is welcome to attend their orientation at the company’s expense once he or she graduates from truck driving school and has their CDL in hand.
We have an excellent article that will help you Understand The Pre-Hire Process.
A Pre-Hire Letter Is Not A Guarantee Of Employment
The people that receive a pre-hire letter are people who meet the company's minimum hiring requirements, but it is not an employment contract. It is an invitation to orientation, and the orientation itself is a prerequisite to employment.
During the orientation you will get a physical, drug screen, and background check done. These and other qualifications must be met before someone in orientation is officially hired.
HOS:
Hours Of Service
HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.EPU:
Electric Auxiliary Power Units
Electric APUs have started gaining acceptance. These electric APUs use battery packs instead of the diesel engine on traditional APUs as a source of power. The APU's battery pack is charged when the truck is in motion. When the truck is idle, the stored energy in the battery pack is then used to power an air conditioner, heater, and other devices
I wouldn't use that as a basis honestly. If a company is not going to hire you then they aren't going to hire you if even if you go to Ivy League Truck Driving Polytechnic Academy and graduate summa cum laude. An accredited private truck driving school really only has 1 mission and it's not to teach you to be a truck driver. It's to get you a CDL-A license. I was in your exact same situation with the exact same concerns not long ago. The best advice I have is to go to a school, voice your concerns and get their opinion, fill out some apps being 100% honest and let the truck driving school fax in your apps. Tell the school you'll bring them a check when you have a reasonable assurance that you're employable. It worked for me. I wasn't 15 mins away from the school when they were calling me back telling me about the pre-hires I had. I don't really see anything in your OP that would exclude you other than living in NJ and thats not really even an issue with a lot of companies.
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Pre-hire:
What Exactly Is A Pre-Hire Letter?
Pre-hire letters are acceptance letters from trucking companies to students, or even potential students, to verify placement. The trucking companies are saying in writing that the student, or potential student, appears to meet the company's minimum hiring requirements and is welcome to attend their orientation at the company’s expense once he or she graduates from truck driving school and has their CDL in hand.
We have an excellent article that will help you Understand The Pre-Hire Process.
A Pre-Hire Letter Is Not A Guarantee Of Employment
The people that receive a pre-hire letter are people who meet the company's minimum hiring requirements, but it is not an employment contract. It is an invitation to orientation, and the orientation itself is a prerequisite to employment.
During the orientation you will get a physical, drug screen, and background check done. These and other qualifications must be met before someone in orientation is officially hired.
Pre-hires:
What Exactly Is A Pre-Hire Letter?
Pre-hire letters are acceptance letters from trucking companies to students, or even potential students, to verify placement. The trucking companies are saying in writing that the student, or potential student, appears to meet the company's minimum hiring requirements and is welcome to attend their orientation at the company’s expense once he or she graduates from truck driving school and has their CDL in hand.
We have an excellent article that will help you Understand The Pre-Hire Process.
A Pre-Hire Letter Is Not A Guarantee Of Employment
The people that receive a pre-hire letter are people who meet the company's minimum hiring requirements, but it is not an employment contract. It is an invitation to orientation, and the orientation itself is a prerequisite to employment.
During the orientation you will get a physical, drug screen, and background check done. These and other qualifications must be met before someone in orientation is officially hired.
Yeah, make sure you get at least two or three pre-hires before committing to a private trucking school. We have an excellent article about Understanding Pre-Hires for anyone who isn't familiar with the process.
Pre-hire:
What Exactly Is A Pre-Hire Letter?
Pre-hire letters are acceptance letters from trucking companies to students, or even potential students, to verify placement. The trucking companies are saying in writing that the student, or potential student, appears to meet the company's minimum hiring requirements and is welcome to attend their orientation at the company’s expense once he or she graduates from truck driving school and has their CDL in hand.
We have an excellent article that will help you Understand The Pre-Hire Process.
A Pre-Hire Letter Is Not A Guarantee Of Employment
The people that receive a pre-hire letter are people who meet the company's minimum hiring requirements, but it is not an employment contract. It is an invitation to orientation, and the orientation itself is a prerequisite to employment.
During the orientation you will get a physical, drug screen, and background check done. These and other qualifications must be met before someone in orientation is officially hired.
Pre-hires:
What Exactly Is A Pre-Hire Letter?
Pre-hire letters are acceptance letters from trucking companies to students, or even potential students, to verify placement. The trucking companies are saying in writing that the student, or potential student, appears to meet the company's minimum hiring requirements and is welcome to attend their orientation at the company’s expense once he or she graduates from truck driving school and has their CDL in hand.
We have an excellent article that will help you Understand The Pre-Hire Process.
A Pre-Hire Letter Is Not A Guarantee Of Employment
The people that receive a pre-hire letter are people who meet the company's minimum hiring requirements, but it is not an employment contract. It is an invitation to orientation, and the orientation itself is a prerequisite to employment.
During the orientation you will get a physical, drug screen, and background check done. These and other qualifications must be met before someone in orientation is officially hired.
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Hi Everyone,
My mom always told me to tell the truth, but when is the truth not always the best policy??
After 13 years in Europe, I recently returned and decided to take up trucking. A few weeks ago I aced the NJ CDL written test of course with the help of the The High Road Online CDL Training Program on this site. After doing extensive research on this site and some others about my options for CDL training, I applied to Prime, Roehl, Millis, Knight, Maverick, CTL before looking into expensive private schools LCCC, Sage@LCTI and TDI which I have the money for if needed.
Roehl, Millis and CTL are not hiring from NJ and the others "couldn't accept me at this time" because of my recent employment history and also I believe because of my DL being suspended at some point last year. The suspension was for non-payment(while in Europe I stoped paying) of an insurance surcharge and for the last six years I have been a Day Trader which on the application I put down as "self employed".
Everything else on my application is crystal clean, no felonies, accidents or tickets, I have a BS degree in Accounting which I did back in the '90s and two computer programs from Chubb Institute which I used to become a Computer Analyst working for a Canadian company on projects in 5 different countries in Europe from 2000 through 2007 before they merged with another company and my position was outsourced..
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I stopped applying because I didn't want to "burn my name" in the trucking Industry before ever becoming a Trucker..
and Also, I am now afraid to go spend 5/6 thousand dollars at one of the private institutions and then not be able to find a job because it looks like I am unhirable due to the gap(day trader) in my work history.
I'm sure my dilemma is not unique and am open to suggestions of what to do, I know I'm a good worker, have always been a well respect by my peers and think I'd be a credit to the Trucking Industry..
Should I somehow twist the truth in my employment history or do you think these companies react differently and make exceptions if I already held a CDL from SAGE for example?
It seems the truth is not always the best medicine...
Thanks to all here..
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles: