Paper Transport Inc: Hair Follicle Test (a Few Questions)

https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/49/392.5

Nevermind, found the proof myself.

Thanks Turtle,

I actually googled and found it myself. I even posted it before you shared but all my posts have to be approved so they don't show up in a timely manner. Anyway, that still means you can have it when you're off duty, but no company is going to let you drink either way, so it's a moot point.

Also, I wasn't trying to imply that drinking alcohol doesn't matter. I was just saying that a lot of us in states that have legalized marijuana use don't see it using it as anymore of a big deal than drinking alcohol. Using alcohol in the wrong manner is still a very big deal, just as pot should be.

Specifically:

No driver shall;

Be on duty or operate a commercial motor vehicle while the driver possesses wine of not less than one-half of one per centum of alcohol by volume, beer as defined in 26 U.S.C. 5052(a), of the Internal Revenue Code of 1954, or distilled spirits as defined in section 5002(a)(8), of such Code. However, this does not apply to possession of wine, beer, or distilled spirits which are:

(i) Manifested and transported as part of a shipment; or

(ii) Possessed or used by bus passengers.

Thank you, Turtle.

My understanding was that positive folicle tests won't be entered into your "permanent record" in the drug clearinghouse. At least last I read the regulations a year or so ago. If that's true I'd lie, cross my fingers & hope for the best.

Too add, one of the best pieces of advice I got from an old school multigenerational driver when starting out was this. "Take lawful direction & never voluteer information". He knew I had back surgery & told me never to tell anyone in the trucking business. I never did and it never kept me from doing an exceptional job .

I am in a CDL score for which I paid myself. Paper Transport looks like a great company. They scheduled me for a urinalysis and hair follicle test.

I know I'll pass the urinalysis, no problem. As for hair follicle: my hair is too short on my head, so they took leg hair. That will likely show marijuana, as it would definitely have been in my system up until the beginning of September (probably the 3rd of September).

My questions:

* Does anyone have experience with PTI to tell me: will that be an automatic "no"?

* Do the results of hair follicle tests go on your record these days? In other words, will I now be screwed forever?

Thanks in advance.

Old thread, I'm putting in apps and wondering if just being around 'legalized" individuals would show up on the test. I've taken a break from trucking and visited a few bars in Missouri so what i'm asking is, is someone else's decision going to rub off on me, is what I'm curious about. There's also a restaurant in town that serves pizza and salads with poppy seed dressing, not sure if that's an issue Ive heard of that possibly creating a false positive as well, it doesn't seem like an exact science to me it seems a bit hokey. very hokey actually.. i just don't want to be blamed for someone else's BS when i haven't done any controlled substance in 15+ years. As a nurse aid for 10 years and knowing a thing or two about spectrum analysis I'm just concerned they're testing the surface of the hair, but not the interior. i guess well see. I'm sure they went to the hair follicle cause half these drivers using fake urine and **** like that, so i guess you really cant blame them. it is what it is. I just hope they use a real lab. guess i'll be the control group. we'll see. If i didn't take anything at all for 15 years there shouldn't be a problem. just my .02 cents

Rusty, first of all you need to change your name here. The term FF is not allowed and does not belong. I’m surprised it got through the filters.

If you are worried, get your own private test so you know what shows up before testing with any company or for a DOT physical.

Rusty, first of all you need to change your name here. The term FF is not allowed and does not belong. I’m surprised it got through the filters.

If you are worried, get your own private test so you know what shows up before testing with any company or for a DOT physical.

I'm not sure on that either. I'm going to ban him for the time being. Not sure how to let him know he needs to change the name, or if he's able to after the ban. I'm not banning for content or to be punitive, just to maintain standards.