The Verdict Is In……. 110 Years Concurrent Life Sentences

When he made the decision to bypass the runaway ramps...and not make any other attempts to stop, or prevent the "accident"....he intentionally decided to crash into these cars...which, removes the word "accident" from the description.

I don't know anything about the road he was on. Is it normal for traffic to be stopped up? Perhaps he thought he could ride it out to the bottom. That's what my instructor did. He said, "The DOT thinks runaway ramps are the best thing since sliced bread, but I don't agree." As he shared his story where he rode it out to the bottom. My guess is, Rogel didn't anticipate being totally blocked off. I'll save labeling someone a murderer for intentional acts.

We have the luxury of studying everything related to the accident with unlimited time. Rogel had to make quick decisions, and he made the wrong ones. I think this accident is an excellent thing for new truck drivers to study and learn from. It definitely changed my perspective about runaway ramps. I was influenced by the wrong instructor when I went to truck driving school.

I’m not approving anymore of Chris posts to this thread. Sorry. His politics makes me sick...

I am more in line with the way Norway handles crime and punishment. They have the lowest recidivism rates in the western world. They don't have this success because they're extra, "hard on crime". Quite the opposite. Do you want a better world with lower crime rates and recidivism rates, or do you just want to punish people because... spite?

It just isn't productive in any manner to give Rogel 110 years. It costs a lot of money, and it means his son doesn't get a dad, etc. Let us be pragmatic.

I was influenced by the wrong instructor when I went to truck driving school.

No, you were influenced by the wrong instructor on life growing up.

I think you are purposely trolling people here. Your first idiotic post got a rise of emotion and you got a kick out of it. Everytime this subject starts to die down...here comes another idiotic, controversial post from you just to get another group riled up. You need to find another way to get your rocks off. You know most here don't share the radical left views you present so you do this on purpose just to elicit a reaction. Just stop.

I am more in line with the way Norway handles crime and punishment

Norway is a Scandinavian country with uniform beliefs and a population of 5 million. The United States is a melting pot with a population of 330 million. In the United States, light sentences and light bail gets you the events of Waukesha, Wisconsin. Somebody that should've been in prison reeking havoc on the public.

 It costs a lot of money, and it means his son doesn't get a dad

The change in cost is miniscule in the grand scheme of things. His spot in prison is already paid for whether he's there or not. As for his son, that's on him. He wasn't concerned about the people he crashed into when he closed his eyes. I hope he lives long enough to serve every one of those years.

I think you are purposely trolling people here. Your first idiotic post got a rise of emotion and you got a kick out of it. Everytime this subject starts to die down...here comes another idiotic, controversial post from you just to get another group riled up. You need to find another way to get your rocks off. You know most here don't share the radical left views you present so you do this on purpose just to elicit a reaction. Just stop.

The story is still ongoing. Millions of people signed the same petition I did. It's not like my viewpoints are edgy. They are mainstream, and the 110 year sentence isn't going to last. Even a lot of truck drivers say they're going to refuse to drive in Colorado ever again because of it. Nothing I'm saying here, for the most part, is idiotic. I will admit a bit of daftness for not trusting a run away ramp that goes down hill, but I shared because I can relate to how Rogel was thinking. Again, we have the luxury of plenty of time to analyze the bad decisions he made. He didn't.

I didn't even realize that I was getting people upset until G-Town shared. I feel I'm just defending my perspective, and like I said, I think us noobs can learn a lot from Rogel's mistakes. Also, I'm not nearly as far left as you suspect - I'm just slightly left on a political compass.

Norway is a Scandinavian country with uniform beliefs and a population of 5 million. The United States is a melting pot with a population of 330 million. In the United States, light sentences and light bail gets you the events of Waukesha, Wisconsin. Somebody that should've been in prison reeking havoc on the public.

There might be some truth to lower crime/recidivism rates being a cultural issue. *shrugs*

The change in cost is miniscule in the grand scheme of things. His spot in prison is already paid for whether he's there or not. As for his son, that's on him. He wasn't concerned about the people he crashed into when he closed his eyes. I hope he lives long enough to serve every one of those years.

Every raindrop doesn't think it's the cause of the flood. Also, it's quite normal to close your eyes when you're about to hit someone in a traffic accident.

This is no longer about trucking. I do not want or intend to abuse the authority Brett has given me to ban Chris.

The best way to quiet Chris is to remove his platform. Stop replying to him. And he will move on.

Even a lot of truck drivers say they're going to refuse to drive in Colorado ever again because of it.

No truck drivers are boycotting Colorado. Most companies are forced dispatch which means you have no say. Also, going around an entire state isn't productive and fuel and DEF is expensive. The trucks you see on the side of the road were there because of high winds. They were there last year and they'll be there next year.

Again, we have the luxury of plenty of time to analyze the bad decisions he made. He didn't.

He did. He stopped when the brakes were smoking and decided to keep going. Plenty of time to make the right decision. I don't know how else to explain this to you. Plenty of warnings that a steep downgrade was coming. The only other thing he could've done was let somebody who knows what they're doing take the wheel.

Also, it's quite normal to close your eyes when you're about to hit someone in a traffic accident.

If that's how you handle it, look into a different career. You've already shown bad judgement by saying you would rather ride a downgrade than take an escape ramp and that you don't trust roads.

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This is no longer about trucking. I do not want or intend to abuse the authority Brett has given me to ban Chris.

The best way to quiet Chris is to remove his platform. Stop replying to him. And he will move on.

I agree with Mickey, it is trolling. Chris does not answer direct questions and keeps singing far-left mantras. This is the basis of any radical propaganda, left or right, doesn't matter - avoiding common sense and logic at any costs, and repeating certain slogans over and over again. Here, at this online forum, such people cannot use loudspeakers, and therefore cannot silence anyone. I personally think that propaganda can win only temporarily - in the long run people with common sense will always know what is right and what is wrong. And this is the only reason why I am answering to Chris the Troll.

What good does sending Rogel to prison for 110 years do? It just makes him another life lost in the accident as far as I see it.

Chris, your question suggests that you misunderstand the whole concept of punishment. It was not invented by Republicans, believe me! Our society came up with this idea many thousands years ago. The main goals of any punishment are to support the idea of justice and therefore give victims some peace of mind when and if possible, to support the law and demonstrate to everybody that it is valid and efficient, and finally to help a criminal come back to society. In this particular case, as most people agree, the guy had many chances to save human lives, but he intentionally rejected them. Should he wait for only 15 minutes after his brakes began to smoke, the outcome could be very different. The same applies to several ramps that he passed. I agree that he did not want to kill anyone, but apparently he killed. The only way to pay for the lives taken is with one's own life. And this is exactly what 110 years mean...