C.R. England Nightmare Experience (True Story, Need Help! Nondrug User Tested Positive!)

OTR would be terrible with issues like that at home, distracting.

Second, I was at a school, I was not working for the company therefore it was not part of any employment history. So when I am asked, "have you ever failed a drug screen from previous employment" I can honestly answer no. It was not on my DAC report nor was it on my Clearinghouse.

If you're lucky, TMC won't report the failed drug test, but if for some reason they really don't eventually report it, it won't be because of the above.

https://www.hireright.com/transportation/solutions/verifications/dac-report-employment-history-file

The DAC report provides information on the period of service, equipment operated, loads hauled, driver status and experience, reason for leaving, rehire eligibility, number of accidents with accident detail, drug and alcohol histories including pre-employment test results, and truck driving school performance records.

Unfortunately if you really were clean, there's always the chance they'll get around to adding it to your DAC report, at which point your company will probably terminate you, for failing the test and for not disclosing it. I've read on here that it's happened like that before to people.

I believe you! Although I know many on here can be pious and quite frankly go off of assumptions I know that people do people dirty. I would contest it first with DataQ from FMCSA or find a firm to get it off your DAC. At least you did not refuse to do it. I think she was holding a grudge against you and did it.

Keeping you in my prayers man!

How can you be living for 2 years with someone addicted to meth and not know it?

As far as driving, you are probably not going to get hired . You should look for another profession until you can put your positive test behind you.

I had my suspicions, but I don't throw accusations until I have the facts. Also, she is not a tweaker, she is a nurse by profession, she knows how to hide it. i won't be giving up trying to get in to a new school. I have come too far to just give up. I never gave up at anything.

You don't know quite as much as you believe, Victor. The history you've typed on here proves it

As far as "assumptions", I base my observations of you from what you have posted. Same for everyone.

I will try and answer several questions I have seen.

If what everyone is suggesting about the DAC report being delayed is true, I guess I will just have to see. Also, that test I took was NOT a per-employment test. They made it VERY clear that you would not even be considered for hire until AFTER you complete the class and earn your CDL. I have this in writing. So if it goes to my DAC report, they will be setting themselves up for a serious lawsuit.

Even in the worst case scenario, I could always become an owner operator and go off on my own, or I could drive Dump Truck until I get the cash together for my own truck. Either way, I have options that I am willing to do in order to achieve my goals. I will not allow this to destroy me or my dreams. I have lived my adult life as a law abiding man and drug free. I could almost claim alcohol free as well, but I do drink about 2, maybe 3 times a year, so I can't claim that one. If for whatever reason this does show up on my DAC report, I will fight it. I have character witnesses who are upstanding people who would testify on my behalf. I have video and email evidence that shows my ex wife admitting several times that I ended up testing positive through oral sex with her and her telling me that she is sorry, and most important, she indicates several times that she knows that I have never used and apologizes for contaminating me. It's not proof that I have never used, but it is a form of evidence.

Everyone how knows me knows that I am completely against drugs, so much so I literally asked for divorce and then later kicked somebody who I loved very much out of my home once I found out she used drugs and refused to seek help. I had to wait until she trashed my home to kick her out, but that is only because of state law that says you cannot kick anyone out of your home unless they pose a threat.

I lost my only son because of a drug addict, before I lost my son, I was tolerant of drugs, but still did not like them. Now, I am completely intolerant of drugs and anyone who uses them. Anyone who knows me on any level knows just how preposterous the notion of me doing drugs actually is. If it shows on my DAC report at any given time, I will literally spend the rest of my life focusing on proving that the hair follicle test is a flawed method of testing and should not be used to weed out drug addicts. A test that pulls all the accumulative drug traces that has ever been in your body over the course of a year (if the sample is taken from any other part of your body other than hair on your head) cannot be a logical solution. If your significant other uses, every fluid you ingest from them over that year adds up; be it from passionate kissing, oral or any other kinks that would transfer fluids from the user to the non-user.

It also can be flawed if the person you are with is a vindictive individual who is purposely poisoning you or if you live in a home that was once used as a meth lab. There are far too many variables here. And come to find out, that trace amount that was found in my test was exactly that, trace amounts...accumulative over the course of an entire year. Yes, it was far beyond their threshold of what they consider a test positive, however, it was still trace amounts. According to academic.oup.com, the false positive rate for those hair tests is 3.3%. It is fine that it produces false positives, however, if somebody tests positive, there should be a different method used to determine if somebody actually is a user, or if they had trace amounts from being around it/with somebody who uses it. I did nothing wrong other than a bad choice in somebody to fall in love with. That was my only crime. I'll be damned if I am going to idly stand by and be ostracized from my dreams over something that I did not do. I am a fighter and if what you all are saying is true, I will fight this till the day I go to my grave. There will be lawsuits flying at a great deal of companies that could very easily turn in to class action lawsuits.

They say that you cannot test positive from second hand, I am living proof that is complete BS, and I would die proving it if this prevents me from my dreams.

For further education, according to that same web site, three drug users that they tested were at the lowest, 96 ng/mg. The highest was 314 ng/mg. My test results came back with 6 ng/mg, their testing method was accumulative of 90 days. My test was accumulative over 1 year. So if we do the math, if my test had been for 90 days, it would most likely be closer to 1.5 ng/mg. .5 ng/mg is the cutoff. Considering the facts of both the tests of the average user and the test results I produced, I don't think it would be very hard to prove my case in a court of law that I was contaminated and not a user.

Congratulations on getting past this obstacle. Now the real fun starts.

I have a friend who used to drive. I was talking to him. He started joking with me. He said, your job is easy. All you do is sit behind a wheel and go from place to place.

Best of luck to you!

OP, if you are truly innocent, then I'm glad you were able to find a way to get into trucking, as you wanted to do.

If you are not, consider what injuring someone does when one drives under the influence of drugs:

In May of 1999, I was driving down a 4 lane road, 2 lanes each side, going to do a job. I was approaching a curve in the road when a car came flying around that curve, and came at me head on. Because I had experience driving (not trucks, cars, lots of courier work), my reactions were fast enough to avoid that head on collision. Nonetheless, the other driver over corrected their out of control swerve into my lane, by now they were on the passenger side of my car, and slammed into my car, spinning the car 180, to the point that I ended up in the same lane I had been traveling, facing the complete opposite direction. In addition, there was a hill right next to that road, so when he hit the car, and caused my car to spin, what stopped me was a hard slam against that hill. I was holding the steering wheel, tightly. So, when the car came to a very sudden stop due to the car slamming into the side of the hill on the driver side, I got wrenched way out of whack, and because I was gripping the steering wheel so hard, it completely screwed up my entire spine.

There's a point to this, I promise.

I was not hit head on, no thanks to that idiot. It was my own skill that got me out of that head on collision. But I can only do one maneuver at a time, and did not have the time to prevent him hitting my car hard, on the side, and spinning the car around to smash into the hill.

Because of my own skill, I am not dead, and I can walk. However, ever since that day, I have been in non stop pain. See, I'm like how you stated you were. I don't like taking anything. I was prescribed 1600mg of Ibuprofen, per dose. Yes. That much. I did take it in the beginning because it was the only way I could function right after the accident, and for some months after. I continue getting prescriptions for 800mg pills of Ibuprofen, but I try not to take them unless I absolutely can't stand it anymore. To. This. Day. We are in 2022 now. The accident was 1999.

Now, the point: After the idiot hit me, he took off. Luckily, someone behind me saw the entire thing, saw the guy take off, whipped their car around and got the license plate, came back to the scene, and gave the police the license plate number. The police went to the other driver's house, his car was parked in the driveway, and he proceeded to a) tell the cops that someone stole his car, it wasn't him driving (because car thieves are always kind enough to bring it back to you after their joy ride), and b) fail a drug test that the police gave him.

This loser piece of trash was on drugs when he hit me. I have been in pain for 23 years because of him. Settlement money means nothing. I'd rather have my pain free life back. And, were it not for my own experience with driving, he would have hit head on - who knows where I'd be right now.

That was just car on car. Imagine if that had been a truck.

So - IF you're not innocent...

I can't even say what I want to say. You better be innocent. If you're not, and you hurt someone, I hope you pay, dearly.

If you are innocent - then nothing I say should get your hackles up. i have a few problems with your story, but I'm just pointing out why it is very necessary for anyone on the road, but especially truck drivers, to be clean. And I mean 100% clean.

Don't get mad at a company for doing what they did. They have students to teach who pass their drug tests. They have people to put in their trucks, and they sure as hell don't want someone who could end up killing an innocent person on the road, and they knew about it because that person failed their test. Do you have any idea what that company would be in for if that were ever the case? It would destroy that company. So don't get mad at them, don't get mad at people who have issues with your story. We don't know you, like you said, so you can't expect everyone to believe everything you say.

I just hope you really are innocent. That's all I can do right now.

I just wanted to share a story that just hit the local news waves regarding a positive meth test. At the local horse track, a Horse tests positive for METH. The gaming commission did an investigation and came to the conclusion that due to the handler (before and after race) testing positive for meth it's safe to say there was residue on their hand that unintentionally transferred to the horses mouth causing the positive result.

I guess my point is it is possible that secondhand exposure did result in your positive test. I am sorry for being skeptical of your story if what you posted is indeed the truth. However, with the safety sensitive nature in this industry there is absolutely no place for drugs. In all my years on this forum we've heard many far fetched excuses of test results.

I hope things are working out well for you kal-el

I just wanted to share a story that just hit the local news waves regarding a positive meth test. At the local horse track, a Horse tests positive for METH. The gaming commission did an investigation and came to the conclusion that due to the handler (before and after race) testing positive for meth it's safe to say there was residue on their hand that unintentionally transferred to the horses mouth causing the positive result.

I guess my point is it is possible that secondhand exposure did result in your positive test. I am sorry for being skeptical of your story if what you posted is indeed the truth. However, with the safety sensitive nature in this industry there is absolutely no place for drugs. In all my years on this forum we've heard many far fetched excuses of test results.

I hope things are working out well for you kal-el

I'm speechless, Rob. T .... yet so grateful you posted this. Heard something local, last week. A guy in OCS had his girl 'service' him....and he popped positive, too. This is all 'hearsay' at the moment, but . . . .has me believing this is a reality check to a real thing. Cops getting 'ill' from touching these drugs; in the news all the time. Sad. Scary. Buy and wear those blue orthotic/orthopedic (medical?) gloves, come one and come all??? SHEESH.

Fenty (as they call fentanyl around here) and Ice (meth) are pretty bad in some Ohio areas. Not so much in our (Amish) community, but dang.. Cleveland is north, Columbus is south, and Mansfield is a stone's throw away, 11 miles Norte' ... why we head SOUTH to Mt. Gilead. Sickening.

Did you know 'this' guy, by chance, Rob T.?

WEST DES MOINES, Iowa —

The tractor-trailer driver who died in a crash at the intersection of Highway 5 and Interstate 35 on Monday night has been identified. Twenty-five-year-old Kyle Stewart, of Des Moines, died at the scene, according to police. The crash was reported at about 6:51 p.m. Police believe Stewart was traveling northbound on Highway 5 when the vehicle left the roadway. It came to rest in the gore area of Highway 5, northbound to Interstate 35 Northbound. The investigation is ongoing.

What the heck, with things anymore.. Stay safe, good sir.

~ Anne ~

I just wanted to share a story that just hit the local news waves regarding a positive meth test. At the local horse track, a Horse tests positive for METH. The gaming commission did an investigation and came to the conclusion that due to the handler (before and after race) testing positive for meth it's safe to say there was residue on their hand that unintentionally transferred to the horses mouth causing the positive result.

I guess my point is it is possible that secondhand exposure did result in your positive test. I am sorry for being skeptical of your story if what you posted is indeed the truth. However, with the safety sensitive nature in this industry there is absolutely no place for drugs. In all my years on this forum we've heard many far fetched excuses of test results.

I hope things are working out well for you kal-el

I'm speechless, Rob. T .... yet so grateful you posted this. Heard something local, last week. A guy in OCS had his girl 'service' him....and he popped positive, too. This is all 'hearsay' at the moment, but . . . .has me believing this is a reality check to a real thing. Cops getting 'ill' from touching these drugs; in the news all the time. Sad. Scary. Buy and wear those blue orthotic/orthopedic (medical?) gloves, come one and come all??? SHEESH.

Fenty (as they call fentanyl around here) and Ice (meth) are pretty bad in some Ohio areas. Not so much in our (Amish) community, but dang.. Cleveland is north, Columbus is south, and Mansfield is a stone's throw away, 11 miles Norte' ... why we head SOUTH to Mt. Gilead. Sickening.

Did you know 'this' guy, by chance, Rob T.?

WEST DES MOINES, Iowa —

The tractor-trailer driver who died in a crash at the intersection of Highway 5 and Interstate 35 on Monday night has been identified. Twenty-five-year-old Kyle Stewart, of Des Moines, died at the scene, according to police. The crash was reported at about 6:51 p.m. Police believe Stewart was traveling northbound on Highway 5 when the vehicle left the roadway. It came to rest in the gore area of Highway 5, northbound to Interstate 35 Northbound. The investigation is ongoing.

What the heck, with things anymore.. Stay safe, good sir.

~ Anne ~

There are more and more stories of people testing positive or overdosing (mainly from fentanyl) from indirect contact, or Accidental exposure (like cops). Unfortunately it's so difficult to sift through what's true and what's a lie. I hesitated to share the story I did because I don't want to give out an additional excuse someone that IS a user could lie about being the cause. This is another reason why it's important to know who you associate with. Personally, I want nothing to do with anybody that uses any sort of illegal or DOT banned substances even if they're in an otherwise legal state. The risk is too high of something funky going on. I have a family to support and that's my biggest priority right now.

I didn't know that person, I'm not sure if they were even local. However we did lose a really nice driver, only 43 yrs old, to a motorcycle wreck when he failed to make the curve in northern Iowa a week ago. Really puts it into perspective chatting with the guy a couple days prior and now he's gone. We're never guaranteed tomorrow so don't take it for granted.

We lived down in West Des Moines for about 3 years but kept to ourselves for the most part, mainly the few guys that I worked with were who i knew. The past 2 years we've lived about 45 minutes north of Des Moines, small town of about 1200. We know alot more people up here but still primarily stick to ourselves. I only have 1 person (guy I worked with at PFG and then he followedme to current employer a week after I started) I really consider a good friend. Even then the kids keep us so busy we haven't hung out outside of work despite chatting on the phone on a regular basis when we're working. It's not likely to get better for now that wife had foot surgery this morning and has to stay off her foot for 8 to 10 weeks, plus she starts online classes in August. But I'm perfectly fine with that, I enjoy spending most days with the family and talking to neighbors and others from church. In the end raising my family is all that matters. Working takes up so much of my time as it is I'm often needing to choose between family time or sleep if I want to earn the type of paycheck we desire to help us reach our goals.