C.R. England Nightmare Experience (True Story, Need Help! Nondrug User Tested Positive!)

I just wanted to share a story that just hit the local news waves regarding a positive meth test. At the local horse track, a Horse tests positive for METH. The gaming commission did an investigation and came to the conclusion that due to the handler (before and after race) testing positive for meth it's safe to say there was residue on their hand that unintentionally transferred to the horses mouth causing the positive result.

He kissed the horse and transferred it.

I just wanted to share a story that just hit the local news waves regarding a positive meth test. At the local horse track, a Horse tests positive for METH. The gaming commission did an investigation and came to the conclusion that due to the handler (before and after race) testing positive for meth it's safe to say there was residue on their hand that unintentionally transferred to the horses mouth causing the positive result.

I guess my point is it is possible that secondhand exposure did result in your positive test. I am sorry for being skeptical of your story if what you posted is indeed the truth. However, with the safety sensitive nature in this industry there is absolutely no place for drugs. In all my years on this forum we've heard many far fetched excuses of test results.

I hope things are working out well for you kal-el

So I’m just seeing this thread and the first thought that came to mind for how would be possible if she regularly had it on her hands and then went to preparing food? Don’t know if that’s been mentioned I skipped around a bit. But of the posts I’ve read of op I have to say they ring true to me. Don’t blame anyone for being skeptical either though.

We lived down in West Des Moines for about 3 years but kept to ourselves for the most part, mainly the few guys that I worked with were who i knew. The past 2 years we've lived about 45 minutes north of Des Moines, small town of about 1200. We know alot more people up here but still primarily stick to ourselves. I only have 1 person (guy I worked with at PFG and then he followedme to current employer a week after I started) I really consider a good friend. Even then the kids keep us so busy we haven't hung out outside of work despite chatting on the phone on a regular basis when we're working. It's not likely to get better for now that wife had foot surgery this morning and has to stay off her foot for 8 to 10 weeks, plus she starts online classes in August. But I'm perfectly fine with that, I enjoy spending most days with the family and talking to neighbors and others from church. In the end raising my family is all that matters. Working takes up so much of my time as it is I'm often needing to choose between family time or sleep if I want to earn the type of paycheck we desire to help us reach our goals.

I / we really commend you, Rob. You & your family are like a 'young,' us. It's been the life here, too. Sacrifices are definitely made. Old School often mentioned similar, in his WordPress blog. I miss that darn thing! Kids grow SO quick; don't take anything for granted. Not even gummies anymore.

I'll keep your wife's healing in prayer, good sir. Hopefully your church has some great folks like most do, that will help tend to your wife's needs as she is in healing. I've never had surgery on my foot, but had torn all my tendons & ligaments when I was 22, and was in a cast/boot. Man, that was not fun. I sure wish her well, good sir. A single 'arm cane' worked better for ME than those dang bulky crutches. You might mention that, further down the road, for her. Stay blessed, y'all.

Thanks for sharing. Always learn something from you.

~ Anne ~

They sure grow up too quick. Cherish the moments.

Wow, this a long and heated conversation. I don't know if I want to jump in on this one. But if it makes you feel any better I got popped on a pre employment hair test also. I was renting a room in a house that turned out to have 4 heavy (weed) smokers in it. I was the only non smoker. Foolishly I believed what I was told. That secondhand smoke doesnt show on tests. Not true. Even the doctor who did my dot physical said so. Urine was clean, hair wasn't. Nothing I could do so I left for a year in alaska. I was away for so long that my phone contract expired and I couldn't log into the clearing house to see if it showed up. I would be furious to have to go through a program for something I didn't do. Especially for something as ridiculous as weed. Remember, non users don't know about drugs. Or ways to get around tests.

You were getting hit pretty hard on this post so just know there are others who feel your pain.

Wow, this a long and heated conversation. I don't know if I want to jump in on this one. But if it makes you feel any better I got popped on a pre employment hair test also. I was renting a room in a house that turned out to have 4 heavy (weed) smokers in it. I was the only non smoker. Foolishly I believed what I was told. That secondhand smoke doesnt show on tests. Not true. Even the doctor who did my dot physical said so. Urine was clean, hair wasn't.

Nothing I could do so I left for a year in alaska. I was away for so long that my phone contract expired and I couldn't log into the clearing house to see if it showed up. I would be furious to have to go through a program for something I didn't do. Especially for something as ridiculous as weed. Remember, non users don't know about drugs. Or ways to get around tests.

You were getting hit pretty hard on this post so just know there are others who feel your pain.

Thanks for stopping IN, Shane . . . My husband's (driver's) brother is retired from paving, and is a smoker/toker/joker whatever. WE don't even go visit, indoors. Sadly. Back porch, perhaps.

Wish we knew more about ya! Where do ya live, do you drive, etc etc etc??? Did you ever come back from AK? Get your CDL? Complete an SAP? So many questions; that I've got no right to ask.

Thanks for your post. I'm with you.

~ Anne ~

Thank you Anne. She seems to be doing decently well today, we all got out to Sam's club and did some shopping at her request since she doesn't want to be cooped up. Kids and I had to run down to the southwest side of des moines metro (hour drive) yesterday to the only place of the 15 I called that seemed to have the knee scooters in stock. Everybody else would've been early next week since they had to special order it, amazon was saying atleast Saturday. Kids are being more than helpful, possibly too helpful lol. Wife's able to maneuver quite a bit with the scooter but uses the crutches to get to the restroom so she can move around a little better. She can't go downstairs where laundry is, and won't be able to do as much cleaning around the house for now so she feels guilty throwing more on my plate. She has a cane (she has deteriorating facet joint in her back that causes issues once a year or so) as well but with her needing to stay completely off the foot for now we haven't used it Unfortunately to let the dogs outside we need to go through the garage and out the backdoor. Not usually a big deal but the step worries me with her needing to hop so I've got Wyatt (6) on dog duty. The mother in law was at the hospital with her yesterday and when they got home my wife had to crawl up the steps to get inside. MIL had a substantial back injury (one reason we moved to FL in 2015) and will never fully recover so she wasn't much help getting the wife inside without risking reinjuring herself. Wyatts super excited to be helping and is trying to do everything, Rodney (5) told me yesterday that mom's staying in bed ALL day and if she gets up I'm going to yell at her except to go potty then I can help her then yell at her to go back to bed hahahahaha. Melanie (3) is staying right by her side and yelling at the dogs to stay away.

Recovery time is about 8 to 10 weeks, but most people are able to bear full weight after 6 weeks. The procedure was to remove her accessory navicular bone. Not everyone is born with the extra bone and those that are a majority don't have issues. My wife's was rubbing against a tendon so they removed the bone but had to cut the tendon to do so.

Boys start school up at the start of the 7th week. We live only a block or so from their school but they'll likely be driven to school on the days I'm at work until she's fully healed. The pastor lives a couple houses down, and almost everybody from the church always steps up to help those with any need they have. Unfortunately I needed to burn up a week of vacation a couple weeks ago when I was sick. I was planning on taking time off unpaid but she's adamant I go back to work that they'll be ok, kids even keep telling me go to work tomorrow. I've been pretty hands off today just watching how they're managing and they'll be ok but I'll still work short (10 hr) days atleast the remainder of the week.

Thanks for stopping IN, Shane . . . My husband's (driver's) brother is retired from paving, and is a smoker/toker/joker whatever. WE don't even go visit, indoors. Sadly. Back porch, perhaps.

Wish we knew more about ya! Where do ya live, do you drive, etc etc etc??? Did you ever come @ from AK? Get your CDL? Complete an SAP? So many questions; that I've got no right to ask.

Thanks for your post. I'm with you.

~ Anne ~

Hello, Anne. Ask anything you like. Yes I am back from AK. A family member needed surgery, so I have been stuck in southern california. I am based in arizona but travel constantly. Ive spent about 4 years circling the globe twice. No I didnt get the cdl. Once i failed the test I got out of that house and was back in alaska inside of a week. Its been 18 months and Ive started looking into the cdl again. But everytime I try its something new. Work History, then fmcsa , then early driver training, now possibly sap. Truthfully its been the biggest pain in my ass that Ive ever tried to do and that just trying to get the cdl. Not sure if it is really worth it. And thats coming from a nomadic traveller with mechanic certs and a clean driving record. So I kinda chuckle when I here people talk about a driver shortage. Sorry to rant, but it felt good to get that off my chest.

Thank you Anne. She seems to be doing decently well today, we all got out to Sam's club and did some shopping at her request since she doesn't want to be cooped up. Kids and I had to run down to the southwest side of des moines metro (hour drive) yesterday to the only place of the 15 I called that seemed to have the knee scooters in stock. Everybody else would've been early next week since they had to special order it, amazon was saying atleast Saturday. Kids are being more than helpful, possibly too helpful lol. Wife's able to maneuver quite a bit with the scooter but uses the crutches to get to the restroom so she can move around a little better. She can't go downstairs where laundry is, and won't be able to do as much cleaning around the house for now so she feels guilty throwing more on my plate. She has a cane (she has deteriorating facet joint in her back that causes issues once a year or so) as well but with her needing to stay completely off the foot for now we haven't used it Unfortunately to let the dogs outside we need to go through the garage and out the backdoor. Not usually a big deal but the step worries me with her needing to hop so I've got Wyatt (6) on dog duty. The mother in law was at the hospital with her yesterday and when they got home my wife had to crawl up the steps to get inside. MIL had a substantial back injury (one reason we moved to FL in 2015) and will never fully recover so she wasn't much help getting the wife inside without risking reinjuring herself. Wyatts super excited to be helping and is trying to do everything, Rodney (5) told me yesterday that mom's staying in bed ALL day and if she gets up I'm going to yell at her except to go potty then I can help her then yell at her to go back to bed hahahahaha. Melanie (3) is staying right by her side and yelling at the dogs to stay away.

Recovery time is about 8 to 10 weeks, but most people are able to bear full weight after 6 weeks. The procedure was to remove her accessory navicular bone. Not everyone is born with the extra bone and those that are a majority don't have issues. My wife's was rubbing against a tendon so they removed the bone but had to cut the tendon to do so.

Boys start school up at the start of the 7th week. We live only a block or so from their school but they'll likely be driven to school on the days I'm at work until she's fully healed. The pastor lives a couple houses down, and almost everybody from the church always steps up to help those with any need they have. Unfortunately I needed to burn up a week of vacation a couple weeks ago when I was sick. I was planning on taking time off unpaid but she's adamant I go back to work that they'll be ok, kids even keep telling me go to work tomorrow. I've been pretty hands off today just watching how they're managing and they'll be ok but I'll still work short (10 hr) days at least the remainder of the week.

Rob T.,

I saved this for Tom to read, upon his arrival home. He just asked me if he was 'half the man' at your age. You're an amazing lad, good sir. I told him, he sure was & still is. Y'all hit a soft spot, as we've got a lot going on, as well. Much adieu about 'something' .. it always seems! She's a lucky gal; your kids are a lively, lucky bunch as well, man. I'm sure they will all chip in, as needed. Tom just chirped 'he sounds like you, always saying 'GO BACK TO WORK!' ~ Yep!'

I wish I KNEW about a knee walker my self too, by gosh. I sure didn't. Our medical supply store in Mansfield, has since gone under. It was either full crutches (made for tall people! Shortest holes for me was 4'wide...) and the 'arm cane' had an elbow rest and strapped to my forearm. I've probably got goofy photos somewhere, with my unkempt mess of a self.

You've got the kids, the pets, and the YOU. Amazing, y'all are....from the Tom'sters mouth. I sure DID lean on the pupper dogs, through many agonies; lastest being my still unresolved rotator cuff.

My email is in profile; Tom & I share one & the same for the most part. He's not super responsible with his own, LoL!! Please give us a shout, if there's anything (or even NOTHING) WE CAN DO!!! His personally is Fidler311@Gmail.com .... mine is the 'communal!'

Best ALWAYS, to you & yours, Rob.

~ Anne & Tom ~

Thanks for stopping IN, Shane . . . My husband's (driver's) brother is retired from paving, and is a smoker/toker/joker whatever. WE don't even go visit, indoors. Sadly. Back porch, perhaps.

Wish we knew more about ya! Where do ya live, do you drive, etc etc etc??? Did you ever come @ from AK? Get your CDL? Complete an SAP? So many questions; that I've got no right to ask.

Thanks for your post. I'm with you.

~ Anne ~

Hello, Anne. Ask anything you like. Yes I am back from AK. A family member needed surgery, so I have been stuck in southern california. I am based in arizona but travel constantly. Ive spent about 4 years circling the globe twice. No I didnt get the cdl. Once i failed the test I got out of that house and was back in alaska inside of a week. Its been 18 months and Ive started looking into the cdl again. But everytime I try its something new. Work History, then fmcsa , then early driver training, now possibly sap. Truthfully its been the biggest pain in my ass that Ive ever tried to do and that just trying to get the cdl. Not sure if it is really worth it. And thats coming from a nomadic traveller with mechanic certs and a clean driving record. So I kinda chuckle when I here people talk about a driver shortage. Sorry to rant, but it felt good to get that off my chest.

Howdy again, Shane!!

Thanks for that. I'm the 'momma @ home' person of TT for now, until (if) my RC ever heals. I know, I get intrusive at times; sorry!

I'd ask again to have you put your location in your profile, but ...hahaha!! Kinda tough to do, then.. eh?

Anyway; have you started here ....>

• Truck Driver's Career Guide
• Brett's Book: The Raw Truth About Trucking (free online version)
• High Road CDL Training Program
• CDL Practice Tests

It's worth a shot~!

So many people in Cali have gotten EXCELLENT starts in this industry!

A few to check out, off the top of my head; StevoReno .. just moved from CRST to the Phillipines to marry his beau'ette!

Harvey C., his son Michael, drives for Marten.. out of Cali. Harvey is a farmer; something with grapes, nuts, and wine... you'll have to search him by 'tags by name' as well! I usually provide 'links' to all peeps relevant, but .. I'm tired... I'm in EDT...!

Oh, YEEEAHHH!! Daniel B., who wrote & published the Pre Trip on TT !!

• Pre-Trip Inspection Study Guide
• Daniel's Pre-Trip Inspection
• Pre-Trip Inspection Checklist
• Pre-Trip Inspection Practice Questions

If you look HIM up by name; you'll see a lot. He was a trainer for Prime, in his early beginnings; went on to many other things; last two known were fuel hauling, and now LTL for Old Dominion!

More will come to mind tomorrow. The links & connections on Trucking Truth are GINORMOUS!!! Hope this helps a bit.

If you ever decide to take the plunge, I'd suggest this: Apply For Paid CDL Training!

Old School and G'Town are on quite a bit; two great mods to follow. Rob D. (Chief Brody) and Turtle .. both are/were Primate flatbedders; sounds like that might be a great starter for YOU!! PJ is an o/o mod... former LEO.. so much to share, always. PackRat and IDMtnGal will teach you how to pack a truck~!!!

Kearsey, (fka: Rainy) has so many published blogs/articles, here & elsewhere...Truckin' Along W/Kearsey~

So many EXCELLENT FOLKS i'm leaving out.. RealDiehl, PapaPig, EVERYONE current in the Diaries section.... have I flummoxed you yet?

Have a great one; Shane. Wish you the best. Kal'el and the Mare might have 'cut some rug' re: the SAP and all that fun stuff; More on that to follow, as I've been doing some research on my own, as well.

Hang in, hang on. Wish you the best; just be a sponge .. as you can.. and as Dory says... KEEP "SWIMMING...."

Welcome to TT !

~ Anne & Tom ~

ps: George B. and I are doing some 'external' research into this 'horse/hoof in mouth' dealio. Something's gotta give. MAJOR grats to ROB T. for posting, along with ALL HIS HOME STUFF, OMG..! Good group, we've got....