Why Do They Torture Us This Way?!!!

I assume it's to cut down on people trying to trick the tests. Either a bag of pee or the super hardcore catheter and shoot clean pee in your bladder

I never understood the reasoning behind not telling a driver they are having a random drug test done when they return to a terminal. If a driver has used illegal substances, it isn't possible to hide it. Our company always called us to tell us "you have to go get a random drug screen done when you get back." "Okay, will do." Then we go get it done.

With advance notice, the person who is dirty will resort to a whole host of methods to try to beat it.

I have heard about these methods, but frankly, can't see any scenario how any could possibly be effective in today's methods of collection. .

I assume it's to cut down on people trying to trick the tests. Either a bag of pee or the super hardcore catheter and shoot clean pee in your bladder

I never understood the reasoning behind not telling a driver they are having a random drug test done when they return to a terminal. If a driver has used illegal substances, it isn't possible to hide it. Our company always called us to tell us "you have to go get a random drug screen done when you get back." "Okay, will do." Then we go get it done.

With advance notice, the person who is dirty will resort to a whole host of methods to try to beat it.

I never understood the reasoning behind not telling a driver they are having a random drug test done when they return to a terminal. If a driver has used illegal substances, it isn't possible to hide it. Our company always called us to tell us "you have to go get a random drug screen done when you get back." "Okay, will do." Then we go get it done.

Yep,

That was a good thing.

Not like you or Tom had any concerns, but geez . . . nice to fit into your 'drive time/OdNd' .. clock!

I'm gonna miss Kim. And even Jim.

Off topic, ever hear of ADS up by you????? He's going for a UA and hair ... for there, soon.

~ Anne ~

I guess if you actually pushed someone else's clean urine into your bladder it might push the metabolites down below whatever the cutoff levels are for a positive.

Would probably depend how dirty you were and how much of your own urine you produced between getting it in there and giving the sample.

Aside from using really old urine, if it was fresh from clean guy to you I didn't know how they'd detect that. It'd be at the right temp and whatnot 🤮

I have heard about these methods, but frankly, can't see any scenario how any could possibly be effective in today's methods of collection. .

I assume it's to cut down on people trying to trick the tests. Either a bag of pee or the super hardcore catheter and shoot clean pee in your bladder

I never understood the reasoning behind not telling a driver they are having a random drug test done when they return to a terminal. If a driver has used illegal substances, it isn't possible to hide it. Our company always called us to tell us "you have to go get a random drug screen done when you get back." "Okay, will do." Then we go get it done.

With advance notice, the person who is dirty will resort to a whole host of methods to try to beat it.

No, Anne, I have never heard of ADS

I never understood the reasoning behind not telling a driver they are having a random drug test done when they return to a terminal. If a driver has used illegal substances, it isn't possible to hide it. Our company always called us to tell us "you have to go get a random drug screen done when you get back." "Okay, will do." Then we go get it done.

Yep,

That was a good thing.

Not like you or Tom had any concerns, but geez . . . nice to fit into your 'drive time/OdNd' .. clock!

I'm gonna miss Kim. And even Jim.

Off topic, ever hear of ADS up by you????? He's going for a UA and hair ... for there, soon.

~ Anne ~

I don't know of any testing sites that allow you to bring in a urine sample. You produce a specimen there, and you don't leave until you do.; else, it 's considered a failed test

I guess if you actually pushed someone else's clean urine into your bladder it might push the metabolites down below whatever the cutoff levels are for a positive.

Would probably depend how dirty you were and how much of your own urine you produced between getting it in there and giving the sample.

Aside from using really old urine, if it was fresh from clean guy to you I didn't know how they'd detect that. It'd be at the right temp and whatnot 🤮

I have heard about these methods, but frankly, can't see any scenario how any could possibly be effective in today's methods of collection. .

I assume it's to cut down on people trying to trick the tests. Either a bag of pee or the super hardcore catheter and shoot clean pee in your bladder

I never understood the reasoning behind not telling a driver they are having a random drug test done when they return to a terminal. If a driver has used illegal substances, it isn't possible to hide it. Our company always called us to tell us "you have to go get a random drug screen done when you get back." "Okay, will do." Then we go get it done.

With advance notice, the person who is dirty will resort to a whole host of methods to try to beat it.

What Travis was referring to is a common practice in sports to get urine from somebody who is 100% clean and then put a catheter up the “drain vein” and inject the clean urine into the bladder. Then the bogus urine is peed into the test container at the time of the monitored urine test.

I know, really gross. But it is mind boggling how far some people will go to cheat, not just with urine tests, but in life in general. Sad.

I don't know if athletes doing that is "common", but in regards to driving/drivers, that is extremely unlikely due to isolation and availability of others urine and the medical equipment to even attempt such nonsense.

What Travis was referring to is a common practice in sports to get urine from somebody who is 100% clean and then put a catheter up the “drain vein” and inject the clean urine into the bladder. Then the bogus urine is peed into the test container at the time of the monitored urine test.

I know, really gross. But it is mind boggling how far some people will go to cheat, not just with urine tests, but in life in general. Sad.

No, Anne, I have never heard of ADS

Don;

Here's one of their trucks; Wooster ones are smaller hauls, though:

What Travis was referring to is a common practice in sports to get urine from somebody who is 100% clean and then put a catheter up the “drain vein” and inject the clean urine into the bladder. Then the bogus urine is peed into the test container at the time of the monitored urine test.

I know, really gross. But it is mind boggling how far some people will go to cheat, not just with urine tests, but in life in general. Sad.

BK,

That hurts even 'ME' ... and I don't even HAVE those parts!!!

~ Anne AND TOM! ~

So what was the outcome? I have been wondering for the past week.