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GaDawg's Comment
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I'm currently on the road with a company I will not name because I'm not trying to throw them under the bus. So here's my snibles...I been on the road for 5 weeks now working to get my CDL , my trainer was all good for the first few weeks then slowly hes turned into a complete a-hole! I'm not gonna sit here and write everything he does that would be pointless. So I network with other trainees and they say their trainers are bad, example some say their trainers sleep in the bunk the whole time or on the phone or they are complete a-hole too! So I'm thinking if I ask for new trainer I'll wind up with someone worse...my biggest problem is I can drive real good, the trainer does everything he can to **** me off or distract me while I'm driving but I have mastered driving dispite him lol, but I can't back good at all and he really has no interest in teaching me....I thought about just quitting or finding another company but I really want to finish this! Another thing is they lied to me about how much money I'll be making once I go solo, I found out from another driver. When I sent an email asking them to tell me exactly how much my pay will be, they won't give me a straight answer. I really would appreciate some advice here, I'm real easy going, I don't like confrontation or causing any ripples and I know thats part of my issue too. Thanks in advance.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Old School's Comment
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When I sent an email asking them to tell me exactly how much my pay will be, they won't give me a straight answer.

Hey GaDawg, there's only one person who can answer your question. Look in the mirror and you'll see them. Truck drivers pay is performance based. No two rookies will make the same amount of money. Your company has no way of knowing how well or how poorly you will perform on your own.

I'm sorry your trainer is not the greatest, but your problem is one we all dealt with as beginners. My trainer was terrible. I did just like you. I learned what I needed despite his shortcomings. Hang in there and don't let yourself be distracted with thinking you've been lied to. You will determine how much money you make. Your first year is going to be rough. It's supposed to be that way. The learning curve is steep. Keep your head in the game. Be very careful about taking advice from other newbies.

Seek out advice from reliable drivers like you'll find here. We would all encourage you to stay the course and prove you can get this job done. If it were easy we wouldn't be in such demand. Make it happen and you'll find you can really make a decent living out here.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

BK's Comment
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When I read a post like this, it’s always describing a situation where the trainer is terrible and the student is the perfect trainee. To really know the story better, the trainer would have to tell his side of the story. But we know that is not going to happen. So it would be great if GaDawg would honestly tell us if he has contributed in any way to this negative experience.

RealDiehl's Comment
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I can understand why you dont want to name the company. You dont want to seem like you are bashing them. All companies have good and bad trainers. Feel free to name the company you are training with. Maybe someone here has experience with how the company trains and can offer more guidance or alternatives. It might give us a better idea of how long your training period lasts as well. As long as you aren't claiming how awful the company is in general, you won't be accused of bashing the company.

Ryan B.'s Comment
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I'm currently on the road with a company I will not name because I'm not trying to throw them under the bus. So here's my snibles...I been on the road for 5 weeks now working to get my CDL , my trainer was all good for the first few weeks then slowly hes turned into a complete a-hole! I'm not gonna sit here and write everything he does that would be pointless. So I network with other trainees and they say their trainers are bad, example some say their trainers sleep in the bunk the whole time or on the phone or they are complete a-hole too! So I'm thinking if I ask for new trainer I'll wind up with someone worse...my biggest problem is I can drive real good, the trainer does everything he can to **** me off or distract me while I'm driving but I have mastered driving dispite him lol, but I can't back good at all and he really has no interest in teaching me....I thought about just quitting or finding another company but I really want to finish this! Another thing is they lied to me about how much money I'll be making once I go solo, I found out from another driver. When I sent an email asking them to tell me exactly how much my pay will be, they won't give me a straight answer. I really would appreciate some advice here, I'm real easy going, I don't like confrontation or causing any ripples and I know thats part of my issue too. Thanks in advance.

Old School provided great advice. He will never tell you something that would not set you up for success if you follow it.

Just a couple of things to add:

You already identified what you need to do. You know that trying to get another trainer could result in nothing improving. At least you have a known quantity with your current trainer. Switching to another company right now will be very bad for your career long term. You are almost finished with training, so you know that you can make it the rest of the way with your current trainer. I was really bad at backing when I first completed my training. Most drivers come out of training with minimal competency at backing because it's something that just takes time to get the hang of.

Any of the experienced drivers here will advise you to stick things out, make the best of it, then do your best once you have completed training.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Ryan B.'s Comment
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When I read a post like this, it’s always describing a situation where the trainer is terrible and the student is the perfect trainee. To really know the story better, the trainer would have to tell his side of the story. But we know that is not going to happen. So it would be great if GaDawg would honestly tell us if he has contributed in any way to this negative experience.

No one perfectly sees a situation from another person's perspective. Maybe GaDawg would be able to identify his contribution or maybe not. Only his trainer knows what has led to the situation that it has become. It's possible that his trainer is dealing with something completely outside of work. We just don't know. You are correct that having both sides of the equation providing insight would be helpful. Since that isn't going to happen, the best advice is to encourage GaDawg to stick it out without making any drastic decisions.

If GaDawg wants to share what errors he has made that may have contributed to the situation with his trainer, I am sure the drivers here who are (or have been) trainers would be willing to offer feedback on how to be a better trainee and maybe improve the situation.

Steve L.'s Comment
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In addition to what the others said (to which, I agree), you can figure out how much you will make.

CPM x average weekly miles = $

Just ask them what you can expect for weekly miles. Or, look at the miles you’re doing now. It’s gonna be low at first, then increase.

It may seem like peanuts at first, but it gets better.

Hang in there!

CPM:

Cents Per Mile

Drivers are often paid by the mile and it's given in cents per mile, or cpm.

GaDawg's Comment
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Thanks this is kinda what I'm thinking and I want to finish, so come hell or high water ill do it....as for everybody else I have done nothing but be respectful and never questioned anything....as far as his behavior maybe being effected from outside the job thats a serious problem for him, I leave my dirty laundry at home.

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I'm currently on the road with a company I will not name because I'm not trying to throw them under the bus. So here's my snibles...I been on the road for 5 weeks now working to get my CDL , my trainer was all good for the first few weeks then slowly hes turned into a complete a-hole! I'm not gonna sit here and write everything he does that would be pointless. So I network with other trainees and they say their trainers are bad, example some say their trainers sleep in the bunk the whole time or on the phone or they are complete a-hole too! So I'm thinking if I ask for new trainer I'll wind up with someone worse...my biggest problem is I can drive real good, the trainer does everything he can to **** me off or distract me while I'm driving but I have mastered driving dispite him lol, but I can't back good at all and he really has no interest in teaching me....I thought about just quitting or finding another company but I really want to finish this! Another thing is they lied to me about how much money I'll be making once I go solo, I found out from another driver. When I sent an email asking them to tell me exactly how much my pay will be, they won't give me a straight answer. I really would appreciate some advice here, I'm real easy going, I don't like confrontation or causing any ripples and I know thats part of my issue too. Thanks in advance.

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Old School provided great advice. He will never tell you something that would not set you up for success if you follow it.

Just a couple of things to add:

You already identified what you need to do. You know that trying to get another trainer could result in nothing improving. At least you have a known quantity with your current trainer. Switching to another company right now will be very bad for your career long term. You are almost finished with training, so you know that you can make it the rest of the way with your current trainer. I was really bad at backing when I first completed my training. Most drivers come out of training with minimal competency at backing because it's something that just takes time to get the hang of.

Any of the experienced drivers here will advise you to stick things out, make the best of it, then do your best once you have completed training.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Banks's Comment
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my trainer was all good for the first few weeks then slowly hes turned into a complete a-hole! 

How did his behavior change, specifically?

So I network with other trainees and they say their trainers are bad, example some say their trainers sleep in the bunk the whole time or on the phone or they are complete a-hole too!

Get rid of that negative energy and complaining. Don't worry about what other students and trainers are doing, focus on you and your training. Listening to someone else constantly complain has a way of making people see things that aren't there.

but I have mastered driving dispite him lol, but I can't back good at all and he really has no interest in teaching me.

If you mastered it, what is there to teach? I'm wondering if this is why your trainer has backed off.

I found out from another driver

More of other people influencing your attitude and how you feel. Avoid terminal rats. All they do is bring in poison and spread it.

I'm real easy going, I don't like confrontation or causing any ripples and I know thats part of my issue too. 

You don't have to be confrontational, but you do have to communicate. Ask questions and ask for advice. How do I set this up? What reference points do you use? Etc. If I'm teaching and you don't ask me anything, I'm going to assume that you're good and understand what you're doing.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

PJ's Comment
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Welcome from one Georgian to another. I agree with the advice given alteady so won’t retype it.

Just do what you have too to get through it and on your own. Stay on YOUR course, because that is all that effects YOU.

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