My Training Experience With Prime.

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Old School's Comment
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Well said stuff here from the Prime ladies. I have a lot of respect for NaeNae and Kearsey! They get it done without excuses - I like that.

George B.'s Comment
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I wish you success and hope you can solve the issues. Prime is one of if not the best training company out there. Hammer down!

C.A.'s Comment
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I understand this sounds as if i have the “because I’m a woman” mentality and my frustration is getting the best of me. But the other issues I have talked about is the main problem. I have complained & there were no consequences to the trainers actions because he was still allowed to train.

As I’ve mentioned a couple of times with my current trainer the issues that I currently have with him are the same issues that have been brought up before by previous trainees & he’s talked about it to me & has shown me the videos that were sent in by them. He laughs about it & says he can get away with many things that’s why he’s still here. Unfortunately Prime failed those trainees & I believe they will do the same to me.

When I spoke about the previous incident I did not speak in this manner. I understand what is appropriate and what isn’t.

As a Prime driver, of the female persuasion, who got my CDL with them, in a PAD based scenario I would have to say that the story coming through for me, is that you came in with a chip on your shoulder, and have taken everything as antagonistic. Yeah, some things sound really shady, and need to be addressed, but if you addressed them in the manner you typed here, nobody will take you seriously.

I highly suggest before you reach out to anybody Kearsy recommended, you get your thoughts together, sort them out, and leave the histrionic "he did this because I'm a woman" out of the equation.

Most of the personality issues I have seen between a student and trainer, are usually based in poor communication, and lack of understanding each other's expectations.

My road at Prime hasnt been a cake walk, but it would have been made exponentially worse, had I used the "because I'm a woman......" Mentality.

You are a truck driver. It's time to knuckle up and get 💩 done, regardless of someone else's personality.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Ryan B.'s Comment
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He did in fact drive on my clock. So I didn’t understand the QC because he would never let me touch it. But at times when i would drive i would see that the Dot time would say 4 hours & some minutes left even if I had not driven in 24 hours. I realized he drove on my clock when I went home one day & I received a message I was using personal conveyance even tho I was home. I let my fleet manager know immediately. Nothing ever came of it because he continued to do it. But like i said at that time I didn’t know & didn’t understand the clocks so i gave up.

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He would literally make me wait 14 hours between restroom breaks & would not pull over when I needed to go. Idk how he did it

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I don’t know how he did it either… anyone else see this?

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Driving on his clock and hers could make this a possibility. Or, if she goes to sleep while he is driving and he stops without waking her, then resumes driving, it could leave a person to believe that he drove for a a longer period without stopping.

She mentioned having difficulty understanding him, so it seems like there is a definite communication problem here.

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A 30 min break is required before driving beyond 8 hrs. Were you chained to the bunk and not allowed to get out of the truck? Seriously? wtf-2.gif

If he is driving on both clocks, 30 min break negated by switching the system to her clock, then continue driving. Definitely not the way things should be done, but it is possible to work it that way.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Fleet Manager:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
C.A.'s Comment
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So I figured out the way he did but he would completely finish his clock then would switch over to mine & drive some time on it.

If he is driving on both clocks, 30 min break negated by switching the system to her clock, then continue driving. Definitely not the way things should be done, but it is possible to work it that way.

Bird-One's Comment
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Looks like Kearsey gave you all the tools you need at this point. Time to get it done C.A!!!

NaeNaeInNC's Comment
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My question immediately became, how did he have your "payroll pin" to switch drivers on the QC? It was made crystal clear to me, that my trainers did not get access to that information. My guess is to prevent situations like this. The inactive driver has to enter their PIN for any duty status changes (off duty to SB, SB to off duty.) So how did he drive on your clock without that?

So I figured out the way he did but he would completely finish his clock then would switch over to mine & drive some time on it.

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If he is driving on both clocks, 30 min break negated by switching the system to her clock, then continue driving. Definitely not the way things should be done, but it is possible to work it that way.

Ryan B.'s Comment
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My question immediately became, how did he have your "payroll pin" to switch drivers on the QC? It was made crystal clear to me, that my trainers did not get access to that information. My guess is to prevent situations like this. The inactive driver has to enter their PIN for any duty status changes (off duty to SB, SB to off duty.) So how did he drive on your clock without that?

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So I figured out the way he did but he would completely finish his clock then would switch over to mine & drive some time on it.

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If he is driving on both clocks, 30 min break negated by switching the system to her clock, then continue driving. Definitely not the way things should be done, but it is possible to work it that way.

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All that a trainer would have to do in that situation is be watching while a trainee puts in the PIN. Wouldn't have to share it with the person at all. You can say that a trainee shouldn't put in a PIN while the trainer is looking, but it's the trainer's truck. I know that I wasn't concerned about my trainer seeing me put in my PIN, and I wouldn't want to try to confront a trainer about an issue like in his/her truck because it's like trying to confront your boss on something. This is 100% on the trainer doing something the trainer had no business doing. Not a trainee's responsibility to check a trainer on anything. I agree with Kearsey 100% that the issues with this trainer need to be reported.

Travis's Comment
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Our pins were MMDDYY birthdates, not sure if that's on any paperwork a trainer would have but a sinple social engineering "when's your birthday? Oh cool, what year" gets that data

NaeNaeInNC's Comment
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I never said the issues shouldn't be reported.

I never put my pin into the QC, without the QC being out of the holder and in my hands, in the passenger seat. Why? Because I would wake up, get in the passenger seat, and go to off duty status from the passenger seat. Don't know how your cabs are set up, but both Pete and FL QC locations aren't exactly easy to operate from the passenger seat

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My question immediately became, how did he have your "payroll pin" to switch drivers on the QC? It was made crystal clear to me, that my trainers did not get access to that information. My guess is to prevent situations like this. The inactive driver has to enter their PIN for any duty status changes (off duty to SB, SB to off duty.) So how did he drive on your clock without that?

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So I figured out the way he did but he would completely finish his clock then would switch over to mine & drive some time on it.

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If he is driving on both clocks, 30 min break negated by switching the system to her clock, then continue driving. Definitely not the way things should be done, but it is possible to work it that way.

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All that a trainer would have to do in that situation is be watching while a trainee puts in the PIN. Wouldn't have to share it with the person at all. You can say that a trainee shouldn't put in a PIN while the trainer is looking, but it's the trainer's truck. I know that I wasn't concerned about my trainer seeing me put in my PIN, and I wouldn't want to try to confront a trainer about an issue like in his/her truck because it's like trying to confront your boss on something. This is 100% on the trainer doing something the trainer had no business doing. Not a trainee's responsibility to check a trainer on anything. I agree with Kearsey 100% that the issues with this trainer need to be reported.

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