5th Wheel
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I've never seen that or heard of it, but it sounds unsafe. I don't think anything is supposed to be welded to the frame, but I don't know if the fifth wheel is illegal.
Here’s the picture
It’s also making me overweight on my steers I got Dot inspected and caught a 32% overweight ticket my company said they will pay it but they didn’t fix the issue so Im gonna be overweight everytime cause we run 107k on our permits
Is it legal to weld the 5th wheel fully forward so it don’t slide anymore my company did this ontop of that the welds are breaking
DOT:
Department Of Transportation
A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.
State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.
Looking at the photo it is not welded to the frame but to the 5th wheel track. It is no different than if it were a non sliding 5th wheel but with a broken weld. The company might not the 5th wheel to slide and that's their choice. I would have the 5th wheel re-welded and be sure of your axle weights after loading because you will not be able to shift any over weight on the drives by very much.
Yeah with it welded forward it overweights my steers. I work for a mining company that does fracking they just started trucking there own products when I started tried telling them I’m gonna be overweight everytime till they slide the wheel back some to take weight from my steers. They still didn’t do it so if I get inspected again just gonna get another ticket.
Looking at the photo it is not welded to the frame but to the 5th wheel track. It is no different than if it were a non sliding 5th wheel but with a broken weld. The company might not the 5th wheel to slide and that's their choice. I would have the 5th wheel re-welded and be sure of your axle weights after loading because you will not be able to shift any over weight on the drives by very much.
This is an intriguing problem that I have never heard of. There must be a story behind this that would explain why the company had the 5th wheel welded in the forward position.
Personally, I would refuse to drive that truck if it couldn’t be made legal. Does the overweight on the steers go on your record? It doesn’t matter if the company pays the fine. If the violation goes on your DAC or any other record, you are the one getting screwed.
This is a new one to me and I am curious as to why this situation exists.
DAC:
Drive-A-Check Report
A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).
It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.
Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.
Prime has stop blocks welded so we can't use the forward most hole, or the rear most hole. I can live with that, as I still have options to slide if absoloutely necessary.
As for the welded forward, I would NOT move that truck, if I could not make it legal weight. The overweight ticket goes on my license, and I'm the one getting hosed over it.
This was my response to a "ok to roll" message. Dispatch had me drop the trailer and wait on another to be unloaded before I hooked it. I do not mess around with my CDL , or other people's safety.
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
HOS:
Hours Of Service
HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Don’t think it does here in NYS I pleaded not guilty and I got the truck fixed and the proper paperwork for court when I gotta go
This is an intriguing problem that I have never heard of. There must be a story behind this that would explain why the company had the 5th wheel welded in the forward position.
Personally, I would refuse to drive that truck if it couldn’t be made legal. Does the overweight on the steers go on your record? It doesn’t matter if the company pays the fine. If the violation goes on your DAC or any other record, you are the one getting screwed.
This is a new one to me and I am curious as to why this situation exists.
DAC:
Drive-A-Check Report
A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).
It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.
Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.
We had a whole shift of drivers refuse to drive and they finally fixed it we are a union shop our steward had us shutdown
Prime has stop blocks welded so we can't use the forward most hole, or the rear most hole. I can live with that, as I still have options to slide if absoloutely necessary.
As for the welded forward, I would NOT move that truck, if I could not make it legal weight. The overweight ticket goes on my license, and I'm the one getting hosed over it.
This was my response to a "ok to roll" message. Dispatch had me drop the trailer and wait on another to be unloaded before I hooked it. I do not mess around with my CDL , or other people's safety.
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
HOS:
Hours Of Service
HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.New Reply:
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Is it legal to weld the 5th wheel fully forward so it don’t slide anymore my company did this ontop of that the welds are breaking