Did Not Get The Proper Training

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Candace C.'s Comment
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I am really trying to get back on the road. I have 6 preventables. I started in July of 2020 and the last one I think was in November 2021. i did not get the proper training when I first started out. The trainer I was with just had me driving, did not teach me how to back or nothing. Training was supposed to be 4 weeks, but after 4 weeks with him, when it came time to test out, I had to tell them driving was all I did. so they put me with another trainer, after 2 days with her, she quit for her own personal reasons, so I got put with another trainer, 2 nd day with him was horrible because he kept yelling at me so I got out of the truck in St. Louis and didn't get back in. They sent me home on a bus, then flew me back to the terminal, and put me another trainer for a week, I somewhat learned, I passed to test out, but I wasn't that good and that this how I got the incidents. One of them was weather related. I was getting on the scaled in Tennessee and it was packed with snow, I didn't know Ice was under the snow but when my steers started spinning, I took my foot off the gas pedal and the trailer went to the right and hit the yellow pole. Safety told me I should have told them to clean the scale before I got on it, so they said that was my fault. Another incident I was going a trailer swap in Alabama and the locking jaw would not lock around king pin. The shop kept trying to walk us through and it still would not lock, so since the shop guy was talking to the other guy on my phone, the shop guy asked me if I mind if the driver I was swapping with tried, I said no, he pulled too far out and dropped the trailer, they said that was my fault since I gave him permission, and the other 1, I was almost to my delivery in Minnesota and I heard air, so I asked if I can go to the nearest truck stop, they said since I was 20 mins from the delivery, to just go and then to the truck stop, so while backing onto the dock, I could not stop and the backed into the dock trailer hit the red light, they said that was my fault. So now no one will touch me with so many. What can I do? 

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

Ryan B.'s Comment
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I am really trying to get back on the road. I have 6 preventables. I started in July of 2020 and the last one I think was in November 2021. i did not get the proper training when I first started out. The trainer I was with just had me driving, did not teach me how to back or nothing. Training was supposed to be 4 weeks, but after 4 weeks with him, when it came time to test out, I had to tell them driving was all I did. so they put me with another trainer, after 2 days with her, she quit for her own personal reasons, so I got put with another trainer, 2 nd day with him was horrible because he kept yelling at me so I got out of the truck in St. Louis and didn't get back in. They sent me home on a bus, then flew me back to the terminal, and put me another trainer for a week, I somewhat learned, I passed to test out, but I wasn't that good and that this how I got the incidents. One of them was weather related. I was getting on the scaled in Tennessee and it was packed with snow, I didn't know Ice was under the snow but when my steers started spinning, I took my foot off the gas pedal and the trailer went to the right and hit the yellow pole. Safety told me I should have told them to clean the scale before I got on it, so they said that was my fault. Another incident I was going a trailer swap in Alabama and the locking jaw would not lock around king pin. The shop kept trying to walk us through and it still would not lock, so since the shop guy was talking to the other guy on my phone, the shop guy asked me if I mind if the driver I was swapping with tried, I said no, he pulled too far out and dropped the trailer, they said that was my fault since I gave him permission, and the other 1, I was almost to my delivery in Minnesota and I heard air, so I asked if I can go to the nearest truck stop, they said since I was 20 mins from the delivery, to just go and then to the truck stop, so while backing onto the dock, I could not stop and the backed into the dock trailer hit the red light, they said that was my fault. So now no one will touch me with so many. What can I do? 

First thing, you should have spoken up while with your first trainer to tell your trainer that you need all the practice backing you can get. If it still didn't change, then you should have been on the phone with the training department of your company to tell them about the issue.

Second, your training isn't the cause of those incidents. There is one person responsible when something happens with your truck while you are operating it. My personal opinion is that you spent too much time asking for permission in doing things instead of telling your company what you are doing. When you started hearing air, you would have been justified to pull over before reaching that truck stop and telling your company that you have a problem that makes moving the truck unsafe. Or, if you wanted to get to the truck stop, do that, then contact the company and tell them that you are not moving until the problem is fixed.

As drivers, we have to have a certain amount of assertiveness that borders on being a-holes, when it comes to safety issues. Some dispatchers don't care what the problem is when you are asking for permission to do something. Those types of dispatchers need to be told this is what I am doing and why. No, I am not moving the truck, and this is why. NaeNae has a post where she points out this type of communication with her company.

The issue with the trailer is a bit confusing. My thought is that the landing gear should have been lowered until the kingpin and locking jaw were secure. Lowered landing gear prevents dropping a trailer where it's an issue. It was your responsibility to make sure that the landing gear was lowered because it was your truck under the trailer. Never let anyone operate your truck. Anything that happens is on you.

Now, as for another company, I really don't know what to tell you. I can't say whether or not another company will hire you. Companies are able to be pretty picky about who they hire right now. All I can say is to apply everywhere and see if you get any bites.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

Dispatcher:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
BK's Comment
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You mean the steers started “sliding”? If they were “spinning”, then they must be making front wheel drive trucks now.

And please see my answer to your earlier post. Same answer would apply here.

Davy A.'s Comment
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Unfortunately, it's going to be very difficult in today's market. We're in a recession that's rapidly approaching a great depression. Inflation is sky high and interest rates are climbing. Some carriers have started laying off. There's a surplus of drivers out there, even in contract freight.. carriers are beig very selective about whom they hire of they are even hiring at all.

What were seeing in your mistakes is not taking personal responsibility for them.this above all else will hinder you. Own them and come up with a plan to not repeat them.

The other thing that comes to mind is that training wouldn't have fixed them. Not to sound mean but they are just common sense and basic physics issues.

Snow is slippery. Of course you'll slide on it. If a tractor( your tractor) pulls out from under a trailer, it will fall if the legs aren't down. If your vehicle has air brakes and you hear a leak, stop driving immediately. Just common sense.

I'm guessing you may be younger and maybe expecting a lot of guidance and hand holding, but it's not something that is found in trucking. It's up to you to figure things out and ask if you don't know.

Trucker Kearsey 's Comment
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Snow or ice would add weight to the scale total. What would be the point of scaling if not accurate due to ice and snow?

Yes landing gear should be down. Why was it up.before locking?

But i read that a few times. I THINK you are saying that the other driver was completely hooked to your old trailer. You couldnt get connected to the nee trailer. He then dropped the trailer because the landing gear was up. You got blamed for allowijg him to attempt to hook to the same trailer from which he just detached. That scenario is BS and very difficult to blame you for another driver dropping a trailer in his truck.

Air leak... an air leak would cause the truck not to shift or possibly set the brakes. How did an air leak cause a dock bump?

None of us had everything taught. My trainer didnt teach me to back at all. I learned by doing it and practicing. I didnt give up nor blamed others

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

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