Endorsements
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I'd suggest calling someone from the DMV in your home state, or even the DOT. In my state of Iowa, the DOT is very responsive on Facebook.
My understanding of the ELDT is that you need to take a class before any endorsements. I can't imagine needing to retake the entire cdl course over again. BUT you would need to take passenger specific training, computer test, then do your pretrip, skills, and road test in a school bus. That's just the way I've interpreted it.
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
DOT:
Department Of Transportation
A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.
State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.
Dm:
Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager
The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.DMV:
Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles
The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.
Thank you Rob. I got to looking at my license and discovered I do have my passenger endorsement. I had to get it for a job in AK back in 2007 and totally forgot about it.
BY, in your case you have “grandfathered” status.
[The FMCSA's Entry-Level Driver Training (ELDT) took effect on February 7, 2022. This set the baseline for training requirements for those seeking for the first time to obtain: 1.) Class A or B CDL , 2.) Upgrade Class B to Class A, or 3.) A school bus (S), passenger (P), or hazardous materials (H) endorsements. The ELDT regulations are not retroactive, so individuals who were issued a CDL or an S, P, or H endorsement prior to Feb. 7, 2022 are not required to complete training for the respective CDL or endorsement.]
Rob T. is correct on the procedure needed for new CDL-A, B/endorsement applicants. For example, according to these regulations, in order to be eligible for the (P) endorsement skills test (pre-trip, backing maneuvers, road test), the ELDT requirement is:
1.) an applicant must obtain a CLP for the (P) endorsement by passing the DMV computer knowledge test (minimum score of 80%). this also is in order to be in legal compliance during the behind-the-wheel training component of the ELDT; 2.) theory/classroom and 3.) behind-the-wheel training components both must be successfully completed with an average, minimum passing grade of 80% before skills testing at the DMV.
FMCSA ELDT Training Provider Registry
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
CSA:
Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)
The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle
FMCSA:
Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration
The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.
What Does The FMCSA Do?
- Commercial Drivers' Licenses
- Data and Analysis
- Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
- Research and Technology
- Safety Assistance
- Support and Information Sharing
DOT:
Department Of Transportation
A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.
State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.
Dm:
Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager
The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.Fm:
Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager
The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.DMV:
Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles
The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.
HOS:
Hours Of Service
HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.CLP:
Commercial Learner's Permit
Before getting their CDL, commercial drivers will receive their commercial learner's permit (CLP) upon passing the written portion of the CDL exam. They will not have to retake the written exam to get their CDL.
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I've had my CDL a since 2016. I was curious about adding a passenger endorsement to it.
I called the school that I went thru to get my CDL to see what I'd need to do. The lady I spoke to said that as of 2022 any upgrade to your license requires you to take the entire course over again.
That sound ridiculous to me. I was basically calling to find out if I could take the test at the DMV and use their buses to do the driving portion in.
Does anyone know if what she said is true?
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
Dm:
Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager
The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.DMV:
Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles
The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.