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Future trucker's Comment
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Hello, I'm 26M from Arizona and I tried college, wasn't for me. Now as I'm older, I've been with Amazon for the past 3 years, they are offering to pay for my CDL. It's a school where I can obtain my CDL A, plus all endorsements, minus school bus. I've been really thinking of doing it but, here is my issue. On 12-16-20 I was involved in a car accident, rear ended and was not at fault. Then on 05-12-21, I was involved in another accident, my 4runner rolled over due to a cars failure to yield at stop sign. I was not at fault. Last year I ordered a certified copy of DVR and I have absolutely nothing on it, it's spotless, no points or anything. I also have police reports of both accidents, I was deemed not at fault for both accidents and the drivers that hit me both got multiple citations.

Please can someone explain to me what do I need to do in order to prove I can get my CDL. I really really want this career so bad, I'm tired of working at Amazon. I don't want to go to college again because I'm scared I'll fail again. Please please please help me.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
BK's Comment
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Hello Erick.

You will need to get your commercial driver’s license learners permit before you can attend a school. You can study for that through the High Road Training program on this site. Find it on the links, but someone will post the pertinent links for you to get started.

Then visit here often with your questions and you will get solid answers and guidance.

The sooner you start studying, the more you will prove yourself and your commitment.

BK's Comment
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High Road CDL Training ProgramTruck Driver's Career Guide

Becoming A Truck Driver: The Raw Truth About Truck Driving

Learn The Logbook Rules (HOS)

Pre-trip Inspection:

A pre-trip inspection is a thorough inspection of the truck completed before driving for the first time each day.

Federal and state laws require that drivers inspect their vehicles. Federal and state inspectors also may inspect your vehicles. If they judge a vehicle to be unsafe, they will put it “out of service” until it is repaired.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Logbook:

A written or electronic record of a driver's duty status which must be maintained at all times. The driver records the amount of time spent driving, on-duty not driving, in the sleeper berth, or off duty. The enforcement of the Hours Of Service Rules (HOS) are based upon the entries put in a driver's logbook.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Hypertension:

Abnormally high blood pressure.

Sleep Apnea:

A physical disorder in which you have pauses in your breathing, or take shallow breaths, during sleep. These pauses can last anywhere from a few seconds to a few minutes. Normal breathing will usually resume, sometimes with a loud choking sound or snort.

In obstructive sleep apnea, your airways become blocked or collapse during sleep, causing the pauses and shallow breathing.

It is a chronic condition that will require ongoing management. It affects about 18 million people in the U.S.

BMI:

Body mass index (BMI)

BMI is a formula that uses weight and height to estimate body fat. For most people, BMI provides a reasonable estimate of body fat. The BMI's biggest weakness is that it doesn't consider individual factors such as bone or muscle mass. BMI may:

  • Underestimate body fat for older adults or other people with low muscle mass
  • Overestimate body fat for people who are very muscular and physically fit

It's quite common, especially for men, to fall into the "overweight" category if you happen to be stronger than average. If you're pretty strong but in good shape then pay no attention.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
RealDiehl's Comment
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I also have police reports of both accidents, I was deemed not at fault for both accidents

That should be all you need. I was involved in a collision of sorts with my old company. A car wrecked in front of me. I avoided any collision, but I ended up with the crashed vehicle's hood stuck under my truck.

The police listed on the report that I was not at fault. When my current employer found out about the incident they asked me to provide the report that said I was not at fault. That's it. They didn't need anything else. I actually had to request a copy from the Colorado police department who responded to the accident. You are ahead of the game since you already have the reports.

Errol V.'s Comment
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Erik, As noted, you have the back-up for your accidents. These things are often taken up by truck companies on a case-by-case basis.

BK got you the Deets. Start now to get that permit. In the CDL class there is usually no time for permit study, so start tonight. Look up the High Road Training Program and git 'er dun.

I often teach Amazon Career Choice CDL courses. It sounds like you are going to a local school instead of an Ancora (my company) class. No Biggie. But the Career Choice tuition deal is a fantastic way to get into any new career, courtesy of Amazon. (Pro Tip: Talk to the local Amazon TOM Team, you might find an opening locally, if that's what you want. You'll be able to keep your Amazonian seniority & bennies.)

BTW, next week I'll be in Goodyear, AZ for a week. If you are on that side of town, give me a holler.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Future trucker's Comment
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So time to be honest with all of you folks, my mother always taught me honestly is the best policy. So from ages 0-23 I was raised in a christian cult church, thing look up "The Message". I was forced to live with my parents the entire time and had an extremely strict upbringing. So rules after rules and I was never allowed friends, after failing the nursing program I was in at the local community college in Tucson. I know I'm not college material, I was given 3 tries, I failed 2 times then I dropped out halfway through the LPN program.

I got extremely depressed and didn't know what to do, then after months of deciding what to do. I joined Amazon about 1 month after the opened the massive warehouse in our area. I've been there ever since, it's been exactly 3 years and 1 month with some change. I've been so unsure of what I want.... Like as a career. I love Amazon so far because I'm very shy and I avoid people like the plague. It's nice, I go in and I'm assigned a station to work, do my work.. then go home. It's nice for my mental health. I used to work day shift, 40hrs a week but just this last year I decided to change it up, I switched to 36hrs nights via 3, 12hr shifts. I love my schedule for now. Also for the past 3 years I've been doing questionable things because I was curious.... As every human. But it's not an excuse, I wasted so much time. Yes I'm young, but I need to grab ahold of my life and get my CDL. I will admit for about 2 years I was drinking heavily, not every day. But at least once every month to the point of blackouts, covering myself in vomit and urine. Then my roommate showed me some edibles, I quickly became a addict. I would have a 10mg edible each week on the weekends. Just to relax I would tell myself, that was completely bs. Did magic mushrooms 2 times in my life, same roommate offed me some. Now that is something that absolutely terrified me, I completely lost control of everything. I only remember glimpses. Also me being high was a very scary situation, I get extremely paranoid and I get sacred. Like impending doom or something.

So I'll be honest since this past July, was my last 12 pack of beer and I had about 10 edibles throughout that month. I know I've sinned and I realized the error in my ways, I'm such a waste of oxygen.

I finally saved some money and I moved away from that room I was renting because I woke up one day and I was like "if I continue down this path, sorrow is all I'll have". I immediately packed my car and told them thanks for letting me stay there for such a long time. Stayed with my sister for a couple of months, then I got my own apartment. Then this July I had a moment of weakness and did all that stuff, I was completely drug free for 6-7 months I would say.

Yes I want to do the Career choice program through Ancora, it's either them or this company called 160 driving academy. The downsides to the orange company is that they only grant me the CDL A, no endorsements or job help.

If I go with Ancora, I'll be set up with schooling online and then do my in person training at this place 10mins away from my apartment. Southwest Truck Driver Training, and I'll get my CDL A plus endorsements.

I really want all the endorsements, plus my TWIC card.

Hopefully my honesty helps, I appreciate this place I've been visiting many times whenever I need encouragement for a new career.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

BK's Comment
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Wow, Erick, you’ve had quite a journey so far. I admire your efforts to get your ship headed in a better direction.

What are “edibles”? Is it like marijuana brownies? If this is what you have been taking, it opens a whole new can of worms. The THC has to be totally out of your system AND hair before you take any drug test related to your CDL or truck driving job. You need to be able to pass a urine analysis test for a DOT physical exam. And I don’t even know how the mushrooms impact your situation. Perhaps someone else will comment on that.

If you want to get a CDL and drive a truck, the only way to show commitment is to refrain from drug and alcohol use.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
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