Can You Let Me Know Where You Got Your Training?

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James M.'s Comment
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From their perspective, you attended school or training and failed. It doesn't matter why you think you failed. It's a statistically higher risk to hire you.

It confirms what we are telling you. Any large carriers that you get into are having trouble keeping enough miles to retain their experienced safe proven reliable drivers, they are pushed by corporate to hire, but boots on the ground, know that they cant hire more.

The corporate position is still to hang on to as large as pool of drivers and trucks as possible, thinking this economy will follow patterns it used to and magically get better. They are on the cusp of trimming down fleet size and trucks just to stay alive as they are faced with the reality of business as usual means closing their business.

What it means for you is that pretty soon, companies will cease hiring or dramatically cut the number down. Only experienced drivers with low risk records who are willing to take some abuse will be primary candidates. It's just natural selection.

I'd keep trying, go with anyone that will hire you. Be honest about your previous experience and simply state that you struggled and failed but have changed so that you can better adapt to the training. Blaming the company makes you look bad and you're not going to convince a prospective employer who doesn't need another driver anyway that they should hire you. But if you take responsibility and deliver a prescription for change, they might be more inclined to take a chance.

Thanks Davy. I get what you are saying and appreciate the advice. I wish I knew in advance that in training with Millis that I'd only really have 1 1/2 weeks to learn 6 backs, but then again, I'd have no idea if that's enough time to learn that or not.

I texted my instructor from Millis and told him about Wilson Logistics. He suggested that I try for CRST. He believes they might give me a shot. I'm filling out their application now.

BTW. It's going to be hard til fill that out while I'm crossing my fingers...lol

Klutch's Comment
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You could also try some beverage or food service companies in the meantime. I know for our delivery or shuttle drivers you need a years experience but they do hire non-CDL drivers, loaders, pickers, yard jockeys etc and have a program to attain your CDL. Any time worked for the company, no matter the position counts towards your seniority for when you do become a driver. Good luck.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
James M.'s Comment
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Listen, this isn't personal. It's ok to be bummed. Check them off the list, and keep going.

I do have a question about your previous training, based on your earlier comments, as it does matter.

Were you at a driving school, and THEN got a conditional offer from Millis, or did Millis send you to your previous program? One may be workable, the other may not.

Hi NaeNae,

I'm not sure what you mean by a conditional offer. If you mean a contract, I never signed one. I reached out to them in the beginning and asked about their program. I'm not sure if that's what you meant or not. If not, just let me know. Thanks!

BTW, I just finished the application for CRST.

James M.'s Comment
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Listen, this isn't personal. It's ok to be bummed. Check them off the list, and keep going.

I do have a question about your previous training, based on your earlier comments, as it does matter.

Were you at a driving school, and THEN got a conditional offer from Millis, or did Millis send you to your previous program? One may be workable, the other may not.

I just reread what you said. Millis didn't send me to a school and I didn't go to a training school. They have their own training program, their own school...which was nothing more than some space covered in gravel, 1 truck and 2 trailers, some cones set up here and there and a small building where they have a few desks to sit at. Does that answer your question?

James M.'s Comment
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You could also try some beverage or food service companies in the meantime. I know for our delivery or shuttle drivers you need a years experience but they do hire non-CDL drivers, loaders, pickers, yard jockeys etc and have a program to attain your CDL. Any time worked for the company, no matter the position counts towards your seniority for when you do become a driver. Good luck.

Hi Klutch,

Thanks for that! I'll take a look online. There's a ton of store around me. I would imagine they need drivers to get the beverages and food there. I didn't know they had a program like that. Very cool! Thanks again!

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
James M.'s Comment
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Quick question. Are most trucking companies looking for team or solo drivers? I'm seeing that question a lot and not sure what the best choice is to make for it. Thanks!

James M.'s Comment
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Swift asked about team or solo and they also asked about what kind of equipment I prefer to drive: Dry Van , Flatbed or Reefer. Anyone know offhand what the best choice for that would be? Thanks again!

Dry Van:

A trailer or truck that that requires no special attention, such as refrigeration, that hauls regular palletted, boxed, or floor-loaded freight. The most common type of trailer in trucking.

Reefer:

A refrigerated trailer.

Stevo Reno's Comment
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I'd go with dry van to start, once you gain experience manuevering a trailer around (year +) safely, then ya can look into reefer? Reefer will have even more to learn, than dry van, and starting out ya really don't need that extra burden....

Besides, getting your foot in the door, where ever that can be, is priority number 1 period. Especially, during this down turn. CRST no loner trains drivers, at least in California, not too sure about their main school/ terminal in Cedar Rapids, Iowa...

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

Dry Van:

A trailer or truck that that requires no special attention, such as refrigeration, that hauls regular palletted, boxed, or floor-loaded freight. The most common type of trailer in trucking.

Reefer:

A refrigerated trailer.

James M.'s Comment
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I'd go with dry van to start, once you gain experience manuevering a trailer around (year +) safely, then ya can look into reefer? Reefer will have even more to learn, than dry van, and starting out ya really don't need that extra burden....

Besides, getting your foot in the door, where ever that can be, is priority number 1 period. Especially, during this down turn. CRST no loner trains drivers, at least in California, not too sure about their main school/ terminal in Cedar Rapids, Iowa...

Hi Steve,

Thanks for your info. I did fill it out as wanting a dry van and put in for being a solo driver. I didn't know that they had training at one time in California. According to their site, they do still offer training at their Cedar Rapids, IA location.

Terminal:

A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.

Dry Van:

A trailer or truck that that requires no special attention, such as refrigeration, that hauls regular palletted, boxed, or floor-loaded freight. The most common type of trailer in trucking.

Reefer:

A refrigerated trailer.

Nuts's Comment
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Laura sorry to hear about you being laid off, can't believe that they just said whoever is driving these trucks coming off lease are done and didn't do a little better evaluation on the person behind the wheel that was let go. If that is how the company operates I wonder how long they can stay afloat. Best of luck to you and enjoy the well deserved time off.

James this is an example of the industry right now, getting a foot in the door is what you need. There are two companies you can look into as they do company sponsored CDL training Halvor Lines in Superior, WI and Magnum trucking in Coon Rapids, MN. What their current qualifications are I am not sure but may be an option.

People aren't buying stuff...only essentials. They're hanging onto their money until at least the election. I think if a Democrat/Biden gets elected again, people won't be buying anything at all!

My company with 80 trucks has apparently been letting some drivers go. Just this morning, 10 of us that were in older trucks (2020, 2021) were laid off. My load planner, left two weeks ago but now I think she was laid off also. I sent her a text message just a bit ago to see if that is what happened. All these older trucks will be turned in this week back to the leaser. So, my brother in IL is coming to get me here in MN and run me to Idaho. I am going to apply for unemployment and take advantage of that for about a month. Then, I will see if I want to get back on the road doing over the road or even regional. I may just retire because in a little more than 2 months I will be 73. It's just that my social security won't make a house payment and other standard bills. So we'll see, but I'm not jumping into anything right away.

Laura

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Regional:

Regional Route

Usually refers to a driver hauling freight within one particular region of the country. You might be in the "Southeast Regional Division" or "Midwest Regional". Regional route drivers often get home on the weekends which is one of the main appeals for this type of route.

Over The Road:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

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