Western Express Change Of Policy Or....?

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J_A's Comment
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I am a 50 year old woman who has been getting it done out here for almost a decade NaeNae is a woman getting it done out here for for half a decade... Laura is a "mature" woman who got it done for several decades.

And new drivers cannot last a few months. We need some gender surgery to start attaching testicles back. This is getting ridiculous.

Oh I see, sarcasm goes over your head, I'm sorry. And doubtful I'll ever cause an accident but that's your take it. I have a great driving record that says otherwise so me a liability, nah... I don't drive like a jerk.

Honestly about cr england, they were the first to call me, then shortly after it was western express & then knight. I had spoken to a swift field recruiter but as the instructors at the school I attended told us for inexperienced drivers it would take sometime to hear from anyone. So after one month, I applied with cr england & that very same day I came aboard with them. You're very judgmental & full of assumptions... And if you had read correctly then you would understood the DM & not necessarily the company. I think cr england is nice company regardless of pay, my issue was the DM.

And quite frankly I could careless what you've done or who, I'm not impressed as you said you're old & sound awfully bitter, good luck to you.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
J_A's Comment
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Nae, "P" Endorsement, I've already spoken to a school that can help with that. Metro bus Line, they can also help with that & they're paid training & it pays more than trucking. So, it's far from over....

But thank you for the input! 👍

Trucker Kearsey 's Comment
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The guy with a great record who cannot get a job has spoken! So let it be written... so let it be done!

James M.'s Comment
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I'm not exactly sure what your situation is, but all I can giclve is my own and how everyone here has been towards me.

After 8 years as a Tier I Operations Support Specialist working remotely at hoke, I ended up training my replacement who is doing my job right now somewhere in India. It sucks, but I get it. The economy is horrible and the company that bought out the company I use to work for are trying their best to cut costs.

I didn't know what to do other than look for a similar position in another company only to find 2 things. The job market was over saturated with a ton of recent college grads who were looking for the same thing, so there was way too much competition. Also, other companies are beginning or have already started to replace U.S. remote IT workers with those working overseas to save money.

I knew I had no choice but to completely change gears and think outside the box. I saw an ad or 2 about truck driving and the more I thought about it, the more appealing the idea was to me. I stumbled across this site, signed up and started asking questions. I got some very solid advice and suggestions from those here. It was hard for me, but I studied and got my CDL-A permit. I then got an offer from Millis Transfer to get training with them, but they had let me go because they expected everyone to learn how to do 6 backs within 2 weeks time and I could only successfully do 4. Thankfully, that was before any contract was signed so I didn't owe them any money.

I thought personally that might have been the end of the road for me, but I explained my situation here and a number of people made some suggestions on what companies I could try for and I was lucky enough to get a 2nd chance. I went to training through TMC Transportation in Columbia, SC. I was in a class of 9 and at the end there was only 4 left. I did my pre-trip test, a 5 part maneuvers test and city driving. I passed and thanked everyone here for their advice, suggestions help and support.

On my 2nd week of OTR training I made the unfortunate mistake of cutting a turn to tightly and ended up popping 1 trailer tire and bending a rim. It was 100% my mistake. My fault. My bad. However you want to word it. TMC let me go as a result of that. As much as I thought that this is definitely the end of the road for me, others here think there may be another company that will give me another chance and they are giving me suggestions on who to put in for.

I can't tell you the level of appreciation and gratitude I feel for everyone here. I'm not sure why you are blasting out people here. I just don't get it. I'm sure you don't want to face facts...at least that's they way I'm seeing it...that they pointed out the fact that you have appeared to have done what you've done to yourself. Once again, I don't know all of the details, but that seems to me what they are trying to tell you, but you're just not getting it.

I know the mistakes I've made and I'm owning them. If I can't get another company to give me another chance, then that's no one's fault other than my own.

I'm honestly not trying to be mean or cruel, but if you're situation is sorta like mine...well, I think you know what I'm trying to say.

Whatever the case may be, I wish you all the luck in the world. I just would really appreciate if you didn't attack those who are trying to give advice or help everyone here. Thanks and have a good one!

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
J_A's Comment
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Hi, James I read your post & by post I mean your story.

But I've never denied & owned up to my mistakes & never once did I blame the either company & never once have I spoken ill of the companies. What Old School said was taken into account, what others have said about making good with western express was taken into account.

I'm not exactly sure where you think I've been to rude those who have been cordial with me but um, Ok...

Now as for you I will say, if you end up homeless just be very careful & stay safe people will try & take advantage. Perhaps seek out a homeless shelter, I've no idea where you're from or how things are out there, just stay safe & trustno one. It was also was very sad to read that you had been drinking, that's not cool to do especially when youre in a bad place, but I get it.

You know sometimes life happens for me this is just small set back. Its not that big of a deal, it'll pass like all things but since I've been stalking around I'd figure I'd inquire about it, some have been helpful while others... I know that I shouldn't have stoop to that level I'm better than that. Anyhow, not worth my blood....

Just hang in there James & I'll do the same.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
James M.'s Comment
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Hi J A. Perhaps I read everything wrong and I apologize if I had. I'm sorry about that.

Yeah, I know things are going to be tough for me for a while unless I do hear; hopefully; from another company willing to give me another chance. I'm hopeful, but not very optimistic about it. This economy really sucks.

I've been getting advice on how to live nomadically here and I'm trying to learn as much as I can. I really wanted to do that anyways, but in a truck...not my car, but it is what it is.

I do appreciate your well wishes and advice as well. I'm hoping it doesn't come down to me living in a shelter. I've heard nothing but horror stories about them and I'm going to do all I can to avoid them. I think I'd be much safer in my car. But, thanks again!

Hi, James I read your post & by post I mean your story.

But I've never denied & owned up to my mistakes & never once did I blame the either company & never once have I spoken ill of the companies. What Old School said was taken into account, what others have said about making good with western express was taken into account.

I'm not exactly sure where you think I've been to rude those who have been cordial with me but um, Ok...

Now as for you I will say, if you end up homeless just be very careful & stay safe people will try & take advantage. Perhaps seek out a homeless shelter, I've no idea where you're from or how things are out there, just stay safe & trustno one. It was also was very sad to read that you had been drinking, that's not cool to do especially when youre in a bad place, but I get it.

You know sometimes life happens for me this is just small set back. Its not that big of a deal, it'll pass like all things but since I've been stalking around I'd figure I'd inquire about it, some have been helpful while others... I know that I shouldn't have stoop to that level I'm better than that. Anyhow, not worth my blood....

Just hang in there James & I'll do the same.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
J_A's Comment
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No need to apologize James it's no big deal. It'll pass but it will take a bit of time don't just limit yourself to these companies there are other job options with a CDL besides a truck to look into. A " P " endorsement, towing they never care for experience, they'll show you how. My first towing job was up in the mountains in a small town I was living in at the time, working for a small contract station. I was hired without having any experience. I have clean driving record, no criminal background & I wasn't drugs that's why he hired me. One year later I went down the hill & got hired by another AAA contract station this time making more money. I have seven years worth of experience & if you mess up they won't fire you as long as you admit it. In the beginning I screwed up a lot caused a lot of damage learning the process but I never once dropped a vehicle! Apply with them, those are physical applications & not the electronic online ones, you can omit whatever you want they won't bother to confirm. You can also try to do lyft or Uber as passive income while living in your car. But please, don't drink stay away from that, cigarettes & unhealthy behavioral patterns including poor diets too! That won't help at all! Trust me, I take no medications for anything I don't see doctors, there's no need my medical DOT was allotted the maximum of two years & working out helps out!

Perhaps, if you can join a gym not only will it help you get in shape but you'll have access to a shower. Reach out to social services, apply for general aid, food stamps do what you got to do!

If you're going to be in a car, unless you have tinted windows use something to block out the windows, try to find a safe place. Maybe there is a program like there is here for safe night time parking for people going through homelessness. Use whatever resources you have available for you, it's not easy living out of a car.

Just stay safe & be well....

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

James M.'s Comment
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Hi again, J A. I do greatly appreciate all of your advice. TBH, I never thought about towing. I don't currently have any endorsements on my CDL , but I could at least take a look into it, see how much it costs and how much time it would take to get it. As long as it pays enough for the rent, bills and food I really don't care about the pay. Going to see everything about that tomorrow for NC.

Thanks again!

No need to apologize James it's no big deal. It'll pass but it will take a bit of time don't just limit yourself to these companies there are other job options with a CDL besides a truck to look into. A " P " endorsement, towing they never care for experience, they'll show you how. My first towing job was up in the mountains in a small town I was living in at the time, working for a small contract station. I was hired without having any experience. I have clean driving record, no criminal background & I wasn't drugs that's why he hired me. One year later I went down the hill & got hired by another AAA contract station this time making more money. I have seven years worth of experience & if you mess up they won't fire you as long as you admit it. In the beginning I screwed up a lot caused a lot of damage learning the process but I never once dropped a vehicle! Apply with them, those are physical applications & not the electronic online ones, you can omit whatever you want they won't bother to confirm. You can also try to do lyft or Uber as passive income while living in your car. But please, don't drink stay away from that, cigarettes & unhealthy behavioral patterns including poor diets too! That won't help at all! Trust me, I take no medications for anything I don't see doctors, there's no need my medical DOT was allotted the maximum of two years & working out helps out!

Perhaps, if you can join a gym not only will it help you get in shape but you'll have access to a shower. Reach out to social services, apply for general aid, food stamps do what you got to do!

If you're going to be in a car, unless you have tinted windows use something to block out the windows, try to find a safe place. Maybe there is a program like there is here for safe night time parking for people going through homelessness. Use whatever resources you have available for you, it's not easy living out of a car.

Just stay safe & be well....

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

J_A's Comment
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James a "P" endorsement allows you to drive buses. I have the option of a trainning school or as applying with the city bus line & it's paid training while you learn to drive the buses & earn that endorsement. I've applied but it'll be sometime before I hear from them.

Towing as long as your driving record is clean & can pass a criminal background thats what they look for. That's always been the case when I get hired by them. Just get your DMV print out they're going to want to see it. It's not the best job in the world but it pays the bills. Look around your area, I live in a huge metropolitan city, I've lived here all of my life & there are pleanty of places of my choosing.

Warehouses, box trucks are another option just apply everywhere & don't limit yourself to what can be done with that CDL. Funny thing is, I've been offered truck jobs but I'm not willing to fly out of state for orientation. No way! I get a towing stay there for a while & I'm sure I'll be back on track soon enough!

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

James M.'s Comment
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Oh. Lol. I'm sorry, I'm completely new to CDL and driving. It makes sense that "P" would be for passenger.

So, there is no endorsement needed to drive a tow truck? How would I learn what to do? From a perspective employer?

I live in Fayetteville, NC, so I'd imagine there's some towing companies near me. I'm going to take a look tomorrow.

What type of license do I need to be a tow truck driver? I only have the CDL-A license. Would that work?

I really do appreciate all of your advice and whatever information you could give me. I'm new to all of this.

Thanks again!

James a "P" endorsement allows you to drive buses. I have the option of a trainning school or as applying with the city bus line & it's paid training while you learn to drive the buses & earn that endorsement. I've applied but it'll be sometime before I hear from them.

Towing as long as your driving record is clean & can pass a criminal background thats what they look for. That's always been the case when I get hired by them. Just get your DMV print out they're going to want to see it. It's not the best job in the world but it pays the bills. Look around your area, I live in a huge metropolitan city, I've lived here all of my life & there are pleanty of places of my choosing.

Warehouses, box trucks are another option just apply everywhere & don't limit yourself to what can be done with that CDL. Funny thing is, I've been offered truck jobs but I'm not willing to fly out of state for orientation. No way! I get a towing stay there for a while & I'm sure I'll be back on track soon enough!

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

DMV:

Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles

The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

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