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Stop evading the question. Educate us. Once I am educated I will tell others what to do. I honesty will. So, the signs say to use both lanes to merge point. I did what the sign says. If that is not correct how is any 4 wheeler supposed to know? What is your correct way?

Education is good, but common sense is better. If everybody is using common sense, there are usually no problems like the one that started this discussion. However, there are car drivers without common sense and there are truck drivers without common sense. Usually the driver who doesn’t exhibit common sense is the one at fault. Common sense and courtesy are of more value than a book full of rules and regulations. But this is a problem in our society in general, not just on the roads.

No, I asked what is the way truckers want the merge lane to be used? Read my previous response. If the sign says to use both lanes to the merge point and that is not what you think is correct then tell us what is correct. I am not trying to back you into a corner. Tell me what is the correct way? If you don't know how are us 4 wheelers supposed to know?

I couldn't agree more. But I still don't understand how to merge with a truck in a zipper zone? I really don't. So, this will happen again and again. What do you want us 4 wheelers to do? If I merge early before the merge point and I happen to go in front of you you don't like that either. So, tell me what I should do. Really, I want to know so that I can tell my wife, and daughter, and son and mother so there are no conflicts with them also.

I couldn't agree more. But I still don't understand how to merge with a truck in a zipper zone? I really don't. So, this will happen again and again. What do you want us 4 wheelers to do? If I merge early before the merge point and I happen to go in front of you you don't like that either. So, tell me what I should do. Really, I want to know so that I can tell my wife, and daughter, and son and mother so there are no conflicts with them also.

Ok, fair enough. Here is what I personally think about how it should be done. If a truck driver blocks both lanes, never get mad or contest his move. Simply fall in behind him and follow until past the bottleneck. Why do I advocate this policy? Because I don’t try to teach other drivers lessons on the road (usually, lol). Our safety dept. sends out fleet messages reminding us not to try and teach other drivers lessons on the road, whether they be in a car or truck. The messages say this : “ You can’t fix stupid, so don’t try.”

If I was in a car, I would still just drop back behind the misguided trucker and move peacefully along with traffic. The ridiculous thing is, jockeying for position in a merging situation is dangerous, aggressive and counterproductive. How much time is usually gained by changing lanes back and forth to advance one vehicle length? Very little, if any. All it accomplishes is to make other drivers mad. So, just sit back, relax and enjoy the ride.

So, John, does that help to answer your question?

Yep! And then they hang my governed @ss out to dry in the hammer lane ticking off every other non governed truck.

When you four-wheelers finally learn how to merge onto the interstate from the on-ramp, I’ll give two shi#&s about what happens at a zipper merge; I encounter a thousand times more idiots who don’t know how to merge onto the interstate versus anything going on at a zipper merge. SMDH.

The problem isn't getting in front of us to merge. The PROBLEM is cutting into our safe stopping space, because you think it's meant for your little car. If you think "I'll just squeeze into this car sized spot" think again. The driver didn't leave that gap for you. It's space for THEM to stop, without shoving their truck up the rear end of your car, and making the nose of YOUR car eat 💩 in front of them.

I couldn't agree more. But I still don't understand how to merge with a truck in a zipper zone? I really don't. So, this will happen again and again. What do you want us 4 wheelers to do? If I merge early before the merge point and I happen to go in front of you you don't like that either. So, tell me what I should do. Really, I want to know so that I can tell my wife, and daughter, and son and mother so there are no conflicts with them also.

Thanks BK. That was a good response. I guess we aren't going to figure out the right method for zipper merging here though. I don't think that anyone wants to stick their neck out that far and hear the rath. Do you use both lanes to the merge point or not? That's all I really wanted to know. But anyway. I am worn out now. I will go away.

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I think in this situation the same rules apply to commercial vehicles vs non commercial vehicles…

Thanks BK. That was a good response. I guess we aren't going to figure out the right method for zipper merging here though. I don't think that anyone wants to stick their neck out that far and hear the rath. Do you use both lanes to the merge point or not? That's all I really wanted to know. But anyway. I am worn out now. I will go away.

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Perhaps we're not being clear enough. There is no singular right and wrong. Every merge is different as the drivers and conditions in it.

But in general, if traffic is light approaching it and vehicles are able to do it, then by all means, take turns. If you have a condition where the majority of people have moved over already, slow down and usually one of us will kindly let you in. If you encounter one like you did, back off, let him go or take both lanes, or whatever he's doing and get in far behind him. If it's a truck, grab the company name, truck or trailer number, get footage and call the company later.

For so.e added educational material. When merging from on ramps, either speed up faster than the flow of traffic or slow down. We don't care if you're in front of is or behind us, just give us lots of room and quit riding right next to us. If you're in front, as was said, get way in front, that big gap we leave is so we don't kill you, we can't stop in time.

Fair enough Davey A. I did learn some things here. I still think that there are going to be issues because I am not sure everyone agrees with your good logic. Anyway, still a good conversation even though I ruffled some feathers as some did mine. I will go now (for real).

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