Team Driving Vs Training Driving

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Midn8t's Comment
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So I am just curies get other people views on this question that popped up in my head.

Companies having new drivers or people who have not been on road for while go through a training program when these program to me seem more like team driving then training ?

Example

How program works you would be consider normal orientation, then they teach you just one or two days of like load securement Or anything, then they send you out with a trainer but all trainer does at these company’s training a sleep while the trainee is driving and working then when trainee clock is up the trainer takes over and drives and works.

The company has team driving like this moving loads day and night so g twice as much shipping then a solo person could do.

Both trainee and trainer get same cents per mile during program but the trainees pay just gets sucked up by the traineer

Should this practice really be consider training ?

TWIC:

Transportation Worker Identification Credential

Truck drivers who regularly pick up from or deliver to the shipping ports will often be required to carry a TWIC card.

Your TWIC is a tamper-resistant biometric card which acts as both your identification in secure areas, as well as an indicator of you having passed the necessary security clearance. TWIC cards are valid for five years. The issuance of TWIC cards is overseen by the Transportation Security Administration and the Department of Homeland Security.

Bobcat_Bob's Comment
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I agree with you to a degree, but yes it is training. The trainer will be ( or at least should be) watching everything you do and teaching you how to do it. They won't just be "sleeping"

Trucker Kearsey 's Comment
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As someone who was a team trainer for the better half of a decade, I can tell you that we dont sleep enough. It is more like a new parent to an infant where you hear everything and wake up. Most of your driving will be on an interstate , and I do not need to be watching you for 10 hours on an interstate after you know what you are doing. Meaning lane control, watching mirrors, folllowing distance etc.

Teaching you how to find customers, checking in, sliding tandems and why, drop n hooks, HOS , dealing with dispatch, claims, accidents and even life on the road is covered. Even with 6 months, 24/7 i could not cover it all.

Check out some of my team training videos and you will get an idea of what it is like.

And no.. i did not make the same as my students. And i was not responsible for their pay.

Team Training

Tandems:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Tandem:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Interstate:

Commercial trade, business, movement of goods or money, or transportation from one state to another, regulated by the Federal Department Of Transportation (DOT).

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Midn8t's Comment
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But if not getting taught anything just doing every thing on your own, and both you and trainer are just taking shifts back and forth.

As someone who was a team trainer for the better half of a decade, I can tell you that we dont sleep enough. It is more like a new parent to an infant where you hear everything and wake up. Most of your driving will be on an interstate , and I do not need to be watching you for 10 hours on an interstate after you know what you are doing. Meaning lane control, watching mirrors, folllowing distance etc.

Teaching you how to find customers, checking in, sliding tandems and why, drop n hooks, HOS , dealing with dispatch, claims, accidents and even life on the road is covered. Even with 6 months, 24/7 i could not cover it all.

Check out some of my team training videos and you will get an idea of what it is like.

And no.. i did not make the same as my students. And i was not responsible for their pay.

Team Training

Tandems:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Tandem:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Interstate:

Commercial trade, business, movement of goods or money, or transportation from one state to another, regulated by the Federal Department Of Transportation (DOT).

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Midn8t's Comment
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Agin thing is some of company like one I’m with it shift driving never awake at same time.

I agree with you to a degree, but yes it is training. The trainer will be ( or at least should be) watching everything you do and teaching you how to do it. They won't just be "sleeping"

Trucker Kearsey 's Comment
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I was a team trainer. They drove 10 hrs, i drove 10 hours. We hit over 1000 miles per day. I personally made sure we showered every day, sat for meals at real restaurants, had time to practice backing.

If you are not getting that in a training situation.... even as a team trainee.. you need to speak up.

Midn8t's Comment
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I’m just passing time to get 25 hours in needed then calling it day probably going find diff place to work also

Only thing learned so far from western express is how to stick a phone on windshield and face time your boyfriend or girlfriend while driving and how to text hands free.

Most of everything from moving tandems so forth even hourly log books I already know how to do due to past work experience driving

I was talking to the three other people who where in flat bed division at western they all having same experience as my self when out with a trainer.

I my self almost had to go to hospital due to allergic reaction due to driver I requested none smoker and I was told this was only none smoking driver they could assign to me.

The girl like vap 24 to 7 won’t stop windows up or down currently been taking to a of Benadryl just to keep swelling down.

I call main office about issues and brought it up to trainer or team driver

Nothing got wait till all loads they want moved are done.

I am going probably just buy my self out of this contract and leave to do something else.

I was a team trainer. They drove 10 hrs, i drove 10 hours. We hit over 1000 miles per day. I personally made sure we showered every day, sat for meals at real restaurants, had time to practice backing.

If you are not getting that in a training situation.... even as a team trainee.. you need to speak up.

Tandems:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

Tandem:

Tandem Axles

A set of axles spaced close together, legally defined as more than 40 and less than 96 inches apart by the USDOT. Drivers tend to refer to the tandem axles on their trailer as just "tandems". You might hear a driver say, "I'm 400 pounds overweight on my tandems", referring to his trailer tandems, not his tractor tandems. Tractor tandems are generally just referred to as "drives" which is short for "drive axles".

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
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