8h Sleeper Rule
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You split the 10 hr into 2 breaks...either 8 in sleeper minimum... and then drive.. then 2 hours min off duty... or you can 7/3 it.
Watch my video it explains in detail.
Hi, why 3h or more "of duty" status during the day doesn't add up to 8h in the "sleeper" to complete 10h rest period? Thanks
Mike, not sure what exactly you are asking. Being “on duty” is not the same as being on a 10 hour break. For the 10 hr. break the driver is either “off duty” or logged into the “sleeper berth”.
Perhaps you can re-state the question to make it more clear.
Sleeper Berth:
The portion of the tractor behind the seats which acts as the "living space" for the driver. It generally contains a bed (or bunk beds), cabinets, lights, temperature control knobs, and 12 volt plugs for power.
This is the scenario: I start the day at 6am. I'm driving up to 10am. At 10.30am I'm unloaded going off duty in my sleeper because my next load is scheduled 2.00pm. At 2.30pm I start driving again. I have 8h drive time left because my 14 h shift was expended by 4h off duty. Then I go to sleeper.....and I have to stay 10 consecutive hours for my shift to reset.
My question was why shift doesn't reset after 8h in the sleeper if I was in the sleeper 4h already waiting for my load?
Hey Mike, welcome to our forum! That's a great question, and it could have several different answers.
Let me explain, but first, I'm assuming you understand the split sleeper berth rule, and you understand it doesn't fully reset your 11 and 14 hour clocks.
Some companies don't allow use of the split sleeper. They set their ELDs to not allow the calculation. That's one possibility. Do you know if your company allows it?
The other possibility is that you have the option of using the split or not. In this scenario there's a way for you to turn it on or off on your ELD screen. That's how mine works. Anytime I want to split my sleeper berth, I turn it on. My screen shows an on/off button labeled "SB." When it's on, the calculation is processed and I can proceed if I like.
Sleeper Berth:
The portion of the tractor behind the seats which acts as the "living space" for the driver. It generally contains a bed (or bunk beds), cabinets, lights, temperature control knobs, and 12 volt plugs for power.
We have a fine section in our training materials designed to help people
Learn The Logbook Rules. (HOS)
You may find it helpful to look into that.
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Logbook:
A written or electronic record of a driver's duty status which must be maintained at all times. The driver records the amount of time spent driving, on-duty not driving, in the sleeper berth, or off duty. The enforcement of the Hours Of Service Rules (HOS) are based upon the entries put in a driver's logbook.
HOS:
Hours Of Service
HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
That's exacly what I have in my ELD. And I'm allowed to choose on and off. But what I point to in my quastion is very strange inconsistency in DOT HOS rules.
2h off duty + 8h in the sleeper if taken consecutively does reset your shift hours
but 4h or 6h off duty in the middle off the day, non-consecutive with 8h in the sleeper after you finish your day - does not.
Any explanation why?
DOT:
Department Of Transportation
A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.
State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.
HOS:
Hours Of Service
HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.OOS:
When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.
but 4h or 6h off duty in the middle off the day, non-consecutive with 8h in the sleeper after you finish your day - does not.
Imma go on a limb and say the non consecutive you mention is the problem, meaning you tripped the log somewhere shy of 2 hours consecutive multiple times?… either way it’s hard to decipher exactly what you mean still.
And obviously I need to do better on quoting.
Thanks for your reply. Indeed I made a mistake in total count hours. But this mistake doesn't change my question wchich is still unanswered...
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Hi, why 3h or more "of duty" status during the day doesn't add up to 8h in the "sleeper" to complete 10h rest period? Thanks