The local TV station here in Atlanta was interviewing big riggers about drivers getting enough sleep and rest after the Tracy Morgan accident, and there was a guy saying "you don't get NO rest on this job-Can't make no MONEY if you rest!!!"
I call B.S.-I personally can take a 10-20 minute nap ANYTIME during the day and feel refreshed totally..I know sleep patterns may be out of whack sometimes, but that's why you catch a nap when you can..Am I right???
No rest for the wicked!!!
I would nap when I could.. any time I felt tired I'd stop and do a half hr or so.. no load is worth falling asleep on..
Just got to Bishop California going SB and pulled over for a nap.
I've always been a huge fan of taking a short nap or two during the day to revive. Works wonders.
But I think the 14 hour rule keeps a lot of people from taking a break when they'd really like to. I mean, once that clock is ticking you have to roll. If you have to spare, great! Grab a nap. What bothers me is when people have 4 or 5 hours left to drive and only that much time left on their 14 clock. You can stop - but you're not going to get to the destination before that 14 hour clock runs out. If it wasn't for that 14 hour rule you'd stop, take an hour nap, and finish up your last few hours safely.
Without a doubt - nobody is "making" anyone do anything out there. You don't have to drive when you're tired. And most people won't when they know they shouldn't. The problem is when you're "on the fence". You could probably push through and finish up the day, but it's going to be hard. It would be a lot easier and safer if you could just grab a quick nap and then finish up your day but you simply don't have time on the clock. Do you park the truck, tell your company you can't make it on time, and take a service failure? A couple of those in a 6 month period and most companies will fire you. Do you push through and just try to be extra careful about staying awake? Your flirting with disaster and threatening a lot of lives, not just your own.
I think the 14 hour rule puts drivers in a tough spot. I think a lot of drivers wind up pushing through when they'd feel much better if they had the time to take a nap.
I generally drive nights. I do that because I have students that I start out driving during the day, and then move them to gradually driving at night. Sometimes I do not get enough sleep. I will stop and take a nap too, if I get too tired.
I was on the NJ TP that night and saw the Tracy Morgan accident. They had all 3 lanes shut down, and had diverted traffic to the emergency lane.As I worked my way past it, I knew something was up, because they had a line of people standing shoulder to shoulder to block the view from cars. Of course us being higher, I saw what they were trying to stop people from seeing,and that was a body bag laying beside the over turned van. I also saw the Walmart truck involved with his front end destroyed. It is not something I really wanted to see.
Traffic on the TP was really light that night, except for the back u at the wreck site. And after we passed, traffic spread out again. It stayed light, over the GWB and through NY on up to RI. Easiest transit I have ever experienced going up there, other than the wreck area.
I've always been a huge fan of taking a short nap or two during the day to revive. Works wonders.
But I think the 14 hour rule keeps a lot of people from taking a break when they'd really like to. I mean, once that clock is ticking you have to roll. If you have to spare, great! Grab a nap. What bothers me is when people have 4 or 5 hours left to drive and only that much time left on their 14 clock. You can stop - but you're not going to get to the destination before that 14 hour clock runs out. If it wasn't for that 14 hour rule you'd stop, take an hour nap, and finish up your last few hours safely.
Without a doubt - nobody is "making" anyone do anything out there. You don't have to drive when you're tired. And most people won't when they know they shouldn't. The problem is when you're "on the fence". You could probably push through and finish up the day, but it's going to be hard. It would be a lot easier and safer if you could just grab a quick nap and then finish up your day but you simply don't have time on the clock. Do you park the truck, tell your company you can't make it on time, and take a service failure? A couple of those in a 6 month period and most companies will fire you. Do you push through and just try to be extra careful about staying awake? Your flirting with disaster and threatening a lot of lives, not just your own.
I think the 14 hour rule puts drivers in a tough spot. I think a lot of drivers wind up pushing through when they'd feel much better if they had the time to take a nap.
Ok, so it's really no different than 4-wheelers, on long trips I would usually "push-through" (I used to live in Chicago and drove straight through from Atlanta few times-about 14-15 hours). I was TIRED, but not sleepy-tired, if ya know what I mean..Just GLAD to get there..my problem is getting out of routine, where I'm used to going to bed at a certain time and getting up at a certain time.If I get out of THAT, then I can get pretty drowsy come time I usually go to bed. And THAT is my biggest concern, however, when I take the mandatory 30-minute break and nap fro 20 minutes or so, I'll be fine...
I've never had a problem with the new HOS Rules and putting in Miles. The 30 minute rule doesn't bother me either, I really don't get it why people complain so much. Everyone from my company seems to do fine with the current HOS too. To be honest who really wants to take 16hrs to drive 11hrs or less. 14hrs is adequate enough for me to drive 11hrs. I understand that sometimes you get a flat or some unforeseen circumstances but I've never really had much of a problem with that. With proper trip planning and knowing where I should be at what time and where. I set myself up to achieve my goal, which is Safety and delivering my Load in a timely manner.
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It's not that you can't get the miles or turn them safely with the 14 hour rule in place. The problem is it takes away your flexibility. Flat tire, accident, construction, delays at customers, or needing a quick nap - a million variables everyday. Without the 14 hour rule you would have a lot more flexibility to run when it makes sense and shut down when it makes sense.
There are a lot of little things affected by the rule also. For instance, without the 14 hour rule more people would be running overnight which would help alleviate some of the daytime traffic. I used to like starting my day at like 2:00 a.m. Well I couldn't do that very often with the 14 hour rule because it isn't often you can shut down for the night at 4:00 p.m. So more people are running more standard hours - like 7:00-9:00 - and it's bottling things up more than they might be otherwise.
I just love having flexibility. Tell me what you need done and when you need it done by and I'll handle it. Maybe I'll run all night and sleep half the day. Maybe I'll break it up into one hour increments. Who knows? Every day is so completely different out there that I want to make my decisions based on all of the various circumstances, not just the time on the clock.
Why can't you still drive at 2am? I do it all the time. I thought if you wanted to do a 34 hour reset it had to be between those hours.
Why can't you still drive at 2am? I do it all the time. I thought if you wanted to do a 34 hour reset it had to be between those hours.
Hours of 1am-5am and it had to be two periods but other then that I can shut down and start my day at any time as long as I don't exceed my 14hour clock.
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The local TV station here in Atlanta was interviewing big riggers about drivers getting enough sleep and rest after the Tracy Morgan accident, and there was a guy saying "you don't get NO rest on this job-Can't make no MONEY if you rest!!!"
I call B.S.-I personally can take a 10-20 minute nap ANYTIME during the day and feel refreshed totally..I know sleep patterns may be out of whack sometimes, but that's why you catch a nap when you can..Am I right???