Lost My Temporary (paper) Cdl
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I'm going to venture to say that if they did not destroy you permit or mark it as "void" when you got the actual CDL-A temporary license AND it hasn't expired, I don't think there is any legal reason you couldn't use it as long as the instructor is sitting in the passenger seat. Of course, if I am wrong, you never get this info from me, right??
Jopa
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
I lost my temporary Colorado cdl. I'm currently with a trainer and now if I go back to the terminal that would set me back a week or two since it took me almost two weeks for them to find me a trainer. My question is can I still use my cdl permit since I have a trainer with me
The short answer is no. How can you use a permit that you no longer have? What did your safety department say when you told them this? Assuming the minute you lost it you did what you were supposed to do and notified your company and safety department. Here is why it's so important. Even though your technically legal in the computer if you can't produce it when asked then if something happens you are opening up a huge liability lawsuit for your company in which they can not win cause without your permit your driving illegal unless you can produce proof that you have applied for another copy.
And no matter the class of the license it states at any time you loose you hard copy or permit you must go and apply for a new one as soon as you can but are not legal to operate a motor without one unless you have proof that you have applied for a replacement.
Better get another copy asap. While the dot can still look you up and you would be legal but you will certainly receive a very large ticket cause you must at all times be able to produce your license /permit. Not having your permit is the same as a driver loosing his CDL hard copy. The officer might let you off easy but since there is another licensed driver in the truck that would be pretty much no driving for you until you get another permit. It's good a trainer is with you but he is not your permit. Since all drivers keep their medical card with their CDL I assume you lost your medical card also correct?
Let's hope you have at least told your company about it cause if they find out you have not had a permit and get a ticket for such that might not go well. Better to loose two weeks of training than be fired cause you with held this info. Having a valid CDL/permit AND medical card is one of the 7 basics the dot judges drivers on.
According to the Colorado website you will have to come in with an approved for of ID to one of the state's local liesncing offices and apply in person. Renewals can be done on the Internet but replacements must be done in person.
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Terminal:
A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.
SAP:
Substance Abuse Professional
The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.
DOT:
Department Of Transportation
A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.
State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.
OOS:
When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.
Let's hope you have at least told your company about it cause if they find out you have not had a permit and get a ticket for such that might not go well. Better to loose two weeks of training than be fired cause you with held this info. Having a valid CDL/permit AND medical card is one of the 7 basics the dot judges drivers on.
GuyJax,
I think he lost his CDL license hard copy and was asking if his PERMIT was still valid until he replaced his LICENSE . . . if it isn't marked "Void" and has not expired, isn't he just as legal as if he hadn't received his license yet? Of course, notify the safety department and they could give the definitive answer to his question, right?
Jopa
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
DOT:
Department Of Transportation
A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.
State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.
OOS:
When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.
I lost my temporary Colorado cdl.
That my dear Jopa is a permit. Signed Sherlock holmes.
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
I lost my temporary Colorado cdl.
That my dear Jopa is a permit. Signed Sherlock holmes.
Not to put too fine a point on it but I am utilizing a TEMPORARY licence that is a paper print out of my future permanent (plastic card) license from Missouri and they actually punched the word "Void" into my Missouri issued, plastic "CDL Permit" (actually two, one I had from Nevada and the one I got in Missouri when I added my tanker endorsement) so I was taking him literally when he said he lost his temporary license. If I were to lose my printed paper , 8" X 11" temporary copy of my future plastic permanent license, I would not have a permit to fall back on since my permanent, plastic permit(s) have been punched with the word "Void" and are therefore void. I agree with you, though, he should notify the safety department at his employer and let them tell him how to proceed. That's why I put the disclaimer in there that he never heard this from me as I was just guessing, not a good thing to do, I know.
Jopa
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
That my dear Jopa is a permit. Signed Sherlock holmes.
Not to put too fine a point on it but I am utilizing a TEMPORARY licence that is a paper print out of my future permanent (plastic card) license from Missouri and they actually punched the word "Void" into my Missouri issued, plastic "CDL Permit" (actually two, one I had from Nevada and the one I got in Missouri when I added my tanker endorsement) so I was taking him literally when he said he lost his temporary license. If I were to lose my printed paper , 8" X 11" temporary copy of my future plastic permanent license, I would not have a permit to fall back on since my permanent, plastic permit(s) have been punched with the word "Void" and are therefore void. I agree with you, though, he should notify the safety department at his employer and let them tell him how to proceed. That's why I put the disclaimer in there that he never heard this from me as I was just guessing, not a good thing to do, I know.
Jopa
But.... But.... But yea your old! I win.
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Once you are given a temporary cdl the permit does not count anymore.
Best thing to do is call your companies safety department. They can tell ya for sure.
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Call the Denver (or whatever city) DMV and ask them anonymously what they want you to do. Go in, get another temporary CDL till your plastic one comes in the mail. Their mailing of you plastic CDL is actually pretty quick and you should have that soon too. If you go in and get another temporary one, your other days on the road are moot. They're over. No one checked, no one hurt, and you just got lucky. Technically, your Colorado CDL Instructional Permit plus your instructor in the truck probably would have covered you legally had you been stopped but you weren't. The only thing is that from the company's standpoint they'd been assuming for a while, that you had your (temporary) CDL. They are also liable for not checking to make sure you have it and your med card on your person, every single day, before you get in the truck. My school checked every day, even if we just drove on the range. It was part of the routine in the first 5 minutes of checking in before going to the trucks. Again, for you, those days are a-wash, you're lucky, go fix the problem Monday morning at the DMV, move on, don't take any more risks. Also ... I'm not a lawyer ...just my suggestions not legal advice.
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Dm:
Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager
The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.DMV:
Department of Motor Vehicles, Bureau of Motor Vehicles
The state agency that handles everything related to your driver's licences, including testing, issuance, transfers, and revocation.
HOS:
Hours Of Service
HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
Colorado cops and law-makers honor the temporary paper copy of your license because they know it takes a couple of weeks for you to get the plastic license in the mail. You're still a licensed CDL driver with the paper license but the law says you have to have that plus your medical card on your person at all times, when operating a CMV , so you haven't lost your status as a CDL driver but you just gotta' have that stuff ON you. And of course, you and your instructor will be in very big doo-doo if anyone pulls you over and finds you without.
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
CMV:
Commercial Motor Vehicle
A CMV is a vehicle that is used as part of a business, is involved in interstate commerce, and may fit any of these descriptions:
- Weighs 10,001 pounds or more
- Has a gross vehicle weight rating or gross combination weight rating of 10,001 pounds or more
- Is designed or used to transport 16 or more passengers (including the driver) not for compensation
- Is designed or used to transport 9 or more passengers (including the driver) for compensation
- Is transporting hazardous materials in a quantity requiring placards
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I lost my temporary Colorado cdl. I'm currently with a trainer and now if I go back to the terminal that would set me back a week or two since it took me almost two weeks for them to find me a trainer. My question is can I still use my cdl permit since I have a trainer with me
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
Terminal:
A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.