Transgender Women In Trucking (Please Don't Laugh...not A Joke)

I guess I am wondering why people want to complicate their already complex decisions by entering a field that is filled with men who will NEVER on earth respect them. I was born female, am female and will stay female. I am not protected class. I am not lesbian. My mature age and gender are not given any special consideration at all by 98% of the male students at trucker school. Why should you or anyone with such an issue with gender identity expect BETTER treatment than those of us born and bred female by openly proclaiming your transgender status? Seems like the only place you would want to be open about it would be on the physical exam in privacy of doctor-patient relationship. All the laws on the books aren't going to change reality of the overwhelming majority of men driving the goods in this country or any other. Just being real with you.

Is this really asking for BETTER treatment? It seems like you are saying '98% of men will always treat anyone who isn't male as a second class citizen. It is 2015, and this is no longer acceptable behavior (if it ever was.) Just because the boys have 'always acted a certain way,' doesn't make it right, and the only way to change that is to keep shining a light on its inappropriateness, and exemplify a better way to do things. I'm going to throw this back to YOU: Are you settling for being treated as a second class citizen, just because you're a straight woman? Why aren't you asking to be treated BETTER? Not 'Better than...' - just better. Just sayin'. I'm always wishing you well.

Hello im a ftm trandgender i just got accepted into trucking school in Indiana, I pass 100% as male and have for five years or more, my question is how do i handle the birth certificate and driver license issue, my DL says male but my birth certificate is an ohio one and they will not amend it no matter what, so i have a DL that says male and a birth certificate that says female

any advise of someone who has been through this would be great

thank you, Bill

Hello im a ftm trandgender i just got accepted into trucking school in Indiana, I pass 100% as male and have for five years or more, my question is how do i handle the birth certificate and driver license issue, my DL says male but my birth certificate is an ohio one and they will not amend it no matter what, so i have a DL that says male and a birth certificate that says female

any advise of someone who has been through this would be great

thank you, Bill

I'm ftm been driving for 1 1/2 years, all my documents are up to date to match me currently except my birth certificate, I have never once had an issue or even needed the darn thing for a job or for the school I went through. Just need DL, SS card, work history, school info ect... of all the things I've been hounded on is I have a small employment gap when I moved to Colorado due to getting settled in. Other than that I've not had issues and don't release my info except when I had to go out with a trainer and for my dot physical. Good luck

Discrimination is no different in the trucking industry than anywhere else. However, at a previous employer, we had 2 trans M2F who transitioned during their employment. Most of our drivers were very supportive and actually the office people had more of an issue with it than anyone (mostly because of the "which bathroom to use" question). I've found that many in the trucking industry are accepting of others, but I definitely wouldn't want to say everyone is. Being trans in this line of work is no different than any other industry in my opinion... some will accept you for you and others won't.

I wish you all the best in your search for an employer!

"December Hopeful"... I don't think anyone here is asking for "better" treatment than those of us born with female body parts. My opinion, she WAS born female. Gender is more than what organs we have.

Another trans female trucker here! Well not yet, im still in CDL school... but so far my progress has been great and I am getting along well with everyone! I'd say the only awkward moment so far was my physical because I gave the doc a bit of a surprise. Haha. =P

I think at the end of the day we are all human, and I could care less of what people think of me. All I want is to be treated fairly... and so far that has happened. So yay!

I look forward to meeting some of you out on the road!

I am so lost... Is there a possible company that's trans friendly? I'm over 3 million miles accident free. 27 yrs OTR. I've done everything from van to doubles.... triples... Reefer.... Oversize.... Flatbed.....You name it...Rocky mountains friendly as well. Have driven in every state but HI and AK... And all of Canada!

I hate to buy a truck again.... Just to work.

Hi Isabel, Welcome to the world of trucking. As a fellow female driver , it can be tough out there , and don't carry mase it's against the law , Carry a water gun filled with amonia works better then anything and not illegal yet . As for safety as with any other job a female works at , just pay attention to your surroundings at all time , you do have stupid people out there . I've been driving since 2005 and have learned for a woman. When guys start harassing you stand your ground with them !!! No means no. If they persist find out what company and get their truck number ( not the trailer number) then call it in . In general most of the other drivers are very respectful, you always have some bad apples in the bunch , don't let them get to you though. Try not to put yourself in a siuation you can't get out of safely. And stay away from dark places like the other person posted . A good rule to follow is. Whenever in doubt don't do it . There's also a female forum on here so if you have any other question especially pertaining to female drivers it's a good place to check out to . I hope this helps some . Welcome to the trucking industries,

Hey im also mtf i want to start truck driving in the US when i finished my transition. i have loved trucking since i was born, but in my country i doubt i would get a truck driving job since everyone is old fasion here. i guess many thinks its weird that mtf wants to drive truck, but i love engines and driving even when i have a woman soul. i dont know any other job that i could hold. please contact me if you want i would love a group of male to female truckers. (sorry for my bad english)

It is sad to see that our Genetic Female Sisters are putting shame on us for doing what we want to do. Everybody wants to earn an honest living. Sure we could go ***** around and take your men from you, and have them pay us to do it. Take examples of Some Very Famous Athletes Married to some Very Famous and Rich Women, with whom are very beautiful and would give them anything they wanted, and still they left for a Trans-Sexual Female to play with them.

No, the girls you see on here, are trying to make a true honest living and have rights under Federal and State Law to do so. I have a CDL and I Drive a Truck. I am not Masculine, even though this is a Testosterone Filled Industry. I am Feminine. I have tried all of my life to pretend to be masculine, and I am not.

I was also born a little different. I was born with Both Sexes, so I am not even truly a Trans-woman, I am a Hermaphrodite, so I cannot even be considered truly "One of the Girls" by my Trans-women community.

So, it does have the appearance that in the manner you are speaking that if we are not white, and straight we are not right?

Nobody can be a little different? I believe God Made me this way for a Reason. I was born both Intersex and feel more comfortable as a woman than a man, and I have lived on both sides of the fence.

I am full of natural born estrogen, and even though I try my hardest to do man things and be the supposed stronger sex, it s not who I am.

I experience mood swings like you, I have PMS really bad like you, I am just like you, except I have some extra parts, and some of the same.

I guess I am wondering why people want to complicate their already complex decisions by entering a field that is filled with men who will NEVER on earth respect them. I was born female, am female and will stay female. I am not protected class. I am not lesbian. My mature age and gender are not given any special consideration at all by 98% of the male students at trucker school. Why should you or anyone with such an issue with gender identity expect BETTER treatment than those of us born and bred female by openly proclaiming your transgender status? Seems like the only place you would want to be open about it would be on the physical exam in privacy of doctor-patient relationship. All the laws on the books aren't going to change reality of the overwhelming majority of men driving the goods in this country or any other. Just being real with you.

I don't think the OP, or anyone else expects special treatment. They expect the same treatment as every other woman, (or man for that matter) who enters trucking. I am also biologically a woman, and I identify as one. If you're not treated well by your classmates at school, you need to stand up for yourself. The last time I checked, the ignition of a truck isn't phallus shaped. If by "special consideration" you mean special treatment, I don't see why you would want it. In fact I don't see anyone on this thread who wants special treatment, only equality.

By the way, you ARE a protected class. The EEOC also prohibits employment discrimination based on sex and age (among other things). Though this only applies to your employer, you are protected in this regard and should know your rights.

Regardless of your opinion on the matter, the laws are in place. What Desiree's trainer is doing is sexual harassment under the eyes of the law. I am not suggesting she sue, I am merely pointing out that her company would certainly like to know so that they can reprimand the trainer appropriately, and potentially avoid a large lawsuit from someone further down the line.

I guess I am wondering why people want to complicate their already complex decisions by entering a field that is filled with men who will NEVER on earth respect them.

Why did Marie Curie enter the field of physics? Why did Rosalind Franklin study DNA? Why did Rachel Carson write Silent Spring? Why did Mae Jemison enter space? Grace Hopper? Sally Ride? Florence Nightingale? The list goes on. These women all entered fields "filled with men who would NEVER on earth respect them". Maybe they did it because it was their calling. Maybe because they knew they could change the world. Maybe some even did it because they wanted to prove all the naysayers wrong.

By your logic, no woman should enter trucking (including you). For that matter, no woman should enter ANY field that is male-dominated (read: nearly all of them). To imply that transgender women (or men, for that matter) shouldn't even enter trucking? Why, because it will be hard? It's hard regardless, and I'm sure most people who are transgender have endured enough hardship to be able to stomach a little more in order to do what they love.

I should never have expressed my observations about any of it. However, I would not go in the direction of comparing professional driving to finding medical cures or becoming an astronaut.

Why not? All are worthy, useful, honest careers. If you'd prefer a different comparison, there are plenty of women in construction, plumbing, automotive technology, and many other "blue collar" professions. I'm not trying to argue; it's clear you don't want to. But people who are transgender shouldn't be made to feel like they don't belong, especially on a website billed as "the most friendly and helpful trucker's forum anywhere".

I must truly agree with you. I was unfortunate enough to have my first post be at someone putting a fellow Trans-woman down in my opinion an it gave the appearance as to not even bother with trucking.

Unfortunately I think my hormonal sensitivities got the better of me, and I lashed out. That is however why we are in the Good 'ol United States of America where we have a Constitution and Bill of Rights that give us a freedom of speech privilege