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Andre G.'s Comment
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Please can someone break down the 70 hour rule in simpler terms for me. The instructor explained but I didn't get it. I'm with him In regards to the drive up to 11hrs and then OFF DUTY for 10hrs. From their I can't get it for nothing. He mentioned something about the 14th hour. PLEASE HELP!! Thanks

HAMMERTIME's Comment
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The Hours of Service rule for truck drivers contains an 11-hour daily driving limit and 14-hour work day limit. You can only work 70 hours a week and if you reach the maximum 70 hours of driving within a week. You take a 34 consecutive hour break you can get all of the hours back.

So what this means is you have 14hrs to drive 11hrs as soon as you start working for the day. So for example lets say you start your day at 4am, 14hrs from 4am is 6pm. So you need to either drive 11hrs by that time while taking a 30 minute break or just finish driving at 6pm because you have hit your 14 hours.

70 hours is the maximum amount of hours you can work in a week. That should be pretty easy, office people work 40 hours and we work 70 and you can either choose to reset or do a rolling clock to keep driving.

I'm bad at explaining this but I will try my best.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Rob's Comment
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Ok......now I'm confused. My understanding of this, according to FMCSA website, is that in any given day, or 24 hour period, 14 hours are reserved for work BUT you can only drive 11 of those 14. The other 3 hours are considered on duty but non-driving hours. So, basically, 14 on and 10 off with a MAX of 11 driving hours. AND, you need to take a 30 minute break after 8 hours of straight driving.

Then, in any given week you can drive UP TO 70 hours, total. Once you hit that 70 hours you have to basically stop driving for 34 hours. Then you can re-set the clock for your 70 hour work week again. So, if you drive 11 hours each day you'll be able to drive M-Sat for a total of 66 hours. Then, on sunday you'd only be able to drive for 4 hours and you then have to take a 34 hour break......or something like that.

I'm not even experienced so I shouldn't even be involved in this but I'm lying in bed listening to my wife ramble on about the drama on her facebook page so I'm typing this to keep my sanity. I'm curious too as to how this works with the hours

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
PJ's Comment
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Keep in mind also the week is 8 days, not a 7 day calendar week

Andre G.'s Comment
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The Hours of Service rule for truck drivers contains an 11-hour daily driving limit and 14-hour work day limit. You can only work 70 hours a week and if you reach the maximum 70 hours of driving within a week. You take a 34 consecutive hour break you can get all of the hours back.

So what this means is you have 14hrs to drive 11hrs as soon as you start working for the day. So for example lets say you start your day at 4am, 14hrs from 4am is 6pm. So you need to either drive 11hrs by that time while taking a 30 minute break or just finish driving at 6pm because you have hit your 14 hours.

70 hours is the maximum amount of hours you can work in a week. That should be pretty easy, office people work 40 hours and we work 70 and you can either choose to reset or do a rolling clock to keep driving.

I'm bad at explaining this but I will try my best.

Thanks guys this really breaks it down in simpler form. Makes way more sense now.

Lol at gunner for the FB drama. 2 funny!!!!

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Andre G.'s Comment
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The Hours of Service rule for truck drivers contains an 11-hour daily driving limit and 14-hour work day limit. You can only work 70 hours a week and if you reach the maximum 70 hours of driving within a week. You take a 34 consecutive hour break you can get all of the hours back.

So what this means is you have 14hrs to drive 11hrs as soon as you start working for the day. So for example lets say you start your day at 4am, 14hrs from 4am is 6pm. So you need to either drive 11hrs by that time while taking a 30 minute break or just finish driving at 6pm because you have hit your 14 hours.

70 hours is the maximum amount of hours you can work in a week. That should be pretty easy, office people work 40 hours and we work 70 and you can either choose to reset or do a rolling clock to keep driving.

I'm bad at explaining this but I will try my best.

Thanks again, what's a rolling clock? My instructor did mention something about after midnight you gain hours back? You broke it down really well to where I understand it so thanks again. This is only my 3rd day in school.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Ricky A.'s Comment
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Ok......now I'm confused. My understanding of this, according to FMCSA website, is that in any given day, or 24 hour period, 14 hours are reserved for work BUT you can only drive 11 of those 14. The other 3 hours are considered on duty but non-driving hours. So, basically, 14 on and 10 off with a MAX of 11 driving hours. AND, you need to take a 30 minute break after 8 hours of straight driving.

Then, in any given week you can drive UP TO 70 hours, total. Once you hit that 70 hours you have to basically stop driving for 34 hours. Then you can re-set the clock for your 70 hour work week again. So, if you drive 11 hours each day you'll be able to drive M-Sat for a total of 66 hours. Then, on sunday you'd only be able to drive for 4 hours and you then have to take a 34 hour break......or something like that.

I'm not even experienced so I shouldn't even be involved in this but I'm lying in bed listening to my wife ramble on about the drama on her facebook page so I'm typing this to keep my sanity. I'm curious too as to how this works with the hours

If i didn't know better i would think you were in bed with my wife. LMAO!!!

By the way. Please explain rolling clock.

CSA:

Compliance, Safety, Accountability (CSA)

The CSA is a Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) initiative to improve large truck and bus safety and ultimately reduce crashes, injuries, and fatalities that are related to commercial motor vehicle

FMCSA:

Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

The FMCSA was established within the Department of Transportation on January 1, 2000. Their primary mission is to prevent commercial motor vehicle-related fatalities and injuries.

What Does The FMCSA Do?

  • Commercial Drivers' Licenses
  • Data and Analysis
  • Regulatory Compliance and Enforcement
  • Research and Technology
  • Safety Assistance
  • Support and Information Sharing

Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
PJ's Comment
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Clock is based on. 8 days. You get hours back at midnight. So on day 8 at midnight, start of day. 9 you get back day 1's on duty hours. And it just keeps rolling till you take a 34 hr reset.

mountain girl's Comment
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Hours of Service of Drivers, FMCSR Section 395

Off-duty time: 10 consecutive hours

On-duty time: No driving after 14 consecutive hours after coming on duty.

Driving time: 11 hours

Weekly limits: 60 hours/7 days or 70 hours/8 days

34-hour restart

FMCSR Section 395 c (1) Any period of 7 consecutive days may begin with an off-duty period of 34 or more consecutive hours that includes 2 periods from 1:00 a.m. to 5:00 a.m.

FMCSR Section 395.3 c (2) The 34-hour restart must fulfill two requirements. Any period of 8 consecutive days may end with the beginning of an off-duty period of 34 or more consecutive hours that includes 2 periods from 1:00 am - 5:00 am.

-mountain girl

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Fm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
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