CPAP (sleep Study For Private School?)

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Ynkedad's Comment
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I'm 6'4" and weigh about 325lbs... Yeah, I'm goona fail the bmI. A few years ago I had a sleep study and now, I have a CPAP machine, although I haven't used it for a few years.

Here's the thing... There was a question on the application at the School asking if I ever had sleep apnea. I marked YES. The recruiter at the truck driving School informed me that I'd need to have a sleep study done, at my expense, before they'd allow me into their School. Anyone else have this happen?

I've read and read lots of stuff prior to my visit to their School and hadn't come across this.

Sleep Apnea:

A physical disorder in which you have pauses in your breathing, or take shallow breaths, during sleep. These pauses can last anywhere from a few seconds to a few minutes. Normal breathing will usually resume, sometimes with a loud choking sound or snort.

In obstructive sleep apnea, your airways become blocked or collapse during sleep, causing the pauses and shallow breathing.

It is a chronic condition that will require ongoing management. It affects about 18 million people in the U.S.

BMI:

Body mass index (BMI)

BMI is a formula that uses weight and height to estimate body fat. For most people, BMI provides a reasonable estimate of body fat. The BMI's biggest weakness is that it doesn't consider individual factors such as bone or muscle mass. BMI may:

  • Underestimate body fat for older adults or other people with low muscle mass
  • Overestimate body fat for people who are very muscular and physically fit

It's quite common, especially for men, to fall into the "overweight" category if you happen to be stronger than average. If you're pretty strong but in good shape then pay no attention.

CPAP:

Constant Positive Airway Pressure

CPAP is a breathing assist device which is worn over the mouth or nose. It provides nighttime relief for individuals who suffer from Sleep Apnea.

Phil C.'s Comment
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I think that's pretty standard if you are over the BMI , you have to get the sleep study done at your expense, and use the cpap machine.

Phil

BMI:

Body mass index (BMI)

BMI is a formula that uses weight and height to estimate body fat. For most people, BMI provides a reasonable estimate of body fat. The BMI's biggest weakness is that it doesn't consider individual factors such as bone or muscle mass. BMI may:

  • Underestimate body fat for older adults or other people with low muscle mass
  • Overestimate body fat for people who are very muscular and physically fit

It's quite common, especially for men, to fall into the "overweight" category if you happen to be stronger than average. If you're pretty strong but in good shape then pay no attention.

CPAP:

Constant Positive Airway Pressure

CPAP is a breathing assist device which is worn over the mouth or nose. It provides nighttime relief for individuals who suffer from Sleep Apnea.

Old School's Comment
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Ynkedad, and all others concerned, this sleep apnea stuff is coming to real head with the new regulations put into place concerning the medical physicals and having to be registered and trained to be on the list of physicians allowed to do the D.O.T. physicals. This is typical government intervention that causes all kinds of consequences that usually has a negative effect in the free market place. All you can do is roll with it. You may be able to find a school that will allow you in without the study, but (and this is important for you to realize) no matter which school you attend, you are going to have to have a physical done by a physician who is registered with the federal government as being trained and approved by them to do the physical. If you don't meet the proper BMI measurements as set up by their program you will be denied the chance to get your permit or your CDL until you have had the necessary sleep study or studies done. You will have to pay for it - our present government is handing out so much money these days that they simply don't have anymore to go around.

The school is actually taking a hit by letting you know this up front - they are losing a lot of business because of this. They could have let you shell out several thousand bucks and then let you find out (from the physician) after a week of school when they send you to go get your physical for your permit that you will have to participate in and pay for your own sleep study. It's a new reality of getting a CDL. There were already lots of hurdles to clear for everyone and now there is one more. You can call it discrimination if you want to - I saw two fellas (who already had their CDL) in my orientation at Knight that tried to pull the discrimination card when the got denied employment until they took the sleep study test at their own expense. But the truth is that you aren't getting anywhere these days as far as getting a CDL, or getting employment as a driver until you get this matter tended to. No one has ever complained about discrimination when it came to not allowing people with high blood pressure or poor eyesight obtain a CDL, but man they start to scream when people who are likely candidates for sleep apnea have to do something about it.

It is unfortunate, but it is reality. If you really want to do this you will proceed and do what you have to do. Trust me I'm not being snarky in what I'm saying. I had a heck of a time getting employed when I first jumped into this career. I got rejected for a minor hernia which I was not even aware of - I ended up spending close to 13,000.00 out of pocket for surgery since I had been self-employed for thirty years and always considered the insurance plans for self employed individuals too expensive. So, yeah I know what a pain it is to have to pay for something you don't think is necessary to get a chance to get your foot in the door. But you know what - I wanted to do this, and I wasn't going to let a little bump in the road distract me. You have got to look at it that way. Do what you have to do, and don't look back. That is the type of attitude that will get you through all this, and that is exactly the type of approach you will have to take with you into this career. There is something new everyday that will try to trip you up. You have just got to have the type of personality that can take on challenges and deal with them no matter how frustrating they may be.

I wish you the best, and hope you fave the fortitude (and the finances) to see this through!

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Sleep Apnea:

A physical disorder in which you have pauses in your breathing, or take shallow breaths, during sleep. These pauses can last anywhere from a few seconds to a few minutes. Normal breathing will usually resume, sometimes with a loud choking sound or snort.

In obstructive sleep apnea, your airways become blocked or collapse during sleep, causing the pauses and shallow breathing.

It is a chronic condition that will require ongoing management. It affects about 18 million people in the U.S.

BMI:

Body mass index (BMI)

BMI is a formula that uses weight and height to estimate body fat. For most people, BMI provides a reasonable estimate of body fat. The BMI's biggest weakness is that it doesn't consider individual factors such as bone or muscle mass. BMI may:

  • Underestimate body fat for older adults or other people with low muscle mass
  • Overestimate body fat for people who are very muscular and physically fit

It's quite common, especially for men, to fall into the "overweight" category if you happen to be stronger than average. If you're pretty strong but in good shape then pay no attention.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

Ducky's Comment
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Every single word Old School typed should be mandatory reading. Just perfect.

David L.'s Comment
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If you are prescribed a CPAP and are using it you should be able to get a medical note from your prescribing physician (usually your personal physician) that will answer questiions about the sleep study and your current conditioin. This is the same for type 2 diabetics, etc. your physical history from your physician can get you through this rough patch.

CPAP:

Constant Positive Airway Pressure

CPAP is a breathing assist device which is worn over the mouth or nose. It provides nighttime relief for individuals who suffer from Sleep Apnea.

C. S.'s Comment
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If you are prescribed a CPAP and are using it you should be able to get a medical note from your prescribing physician (usually your personal physician) that will answer questiions about the sleep study and your current conditioin. This is the same for type 2 diabetics, etc. your physical history from your physician can get you through this rough patch.

Agreed. My boyfriend uses a CPAP and there were no issues during the physical; they just needed his general physician's address and telephone number to confirm his diagnosis. His medical certificate is good for one year instead of two like mine, and that's about the only difference.

CPAP:

Constant Positive Airway Pressure

CPAP is a breathing assist device which is worn over the mouth or nose. It provides nighttime relief for individuals who suffer from Sleep Apnea.

Old School's Comment
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A few years ago I had a sleep study and now, I have a CPAP machine, although I haven't used it for a few years.

Ynkedad, I agree with the other posters on getting a letter or a statement from your former physician. I was simply trying to address your question about the sleep apnea witch hunt that is going on. If you have already been tested and have a cpap machine you should be able to get around taking a new study. I do want you to be aware though that you will probably have to get a new machine that can be monitored by your employer. These machines will have a data card or some such device that can be read to confirm your usage of the machine. Many of the large carriers will front the money for the machine and deduct small amounts from your checks until it is paid for.

Sleep Apnea:

A physical disorder in which you have pauses in your breathing, or take shallow breaths, during sleep. These pauses can last anywhere from a few seconds to a few minutes. Normal breathing will usually resume, sometimes with a loud choking sound or snort.

In obstructive sleep apnea, your airways become blocked or collapse during sleep, causing the pauses and shallow breathing.

It is a chronic condition that will require ongoing management. It affects about 18 million people in the U.S.

CPAP:

Constant Positive Airway Pressure

CPAP is a breathing assist device which is worn over the mouth or nose. It provides nighttime relief for individuals who suffer from Sleep Apnea.

Colleen W.'s Comment
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I'm a little confused. Recently there have been people on this site that are overweight and have passed their physical without a sleep test, also I have read posts that said that some companies will do a sleep test and pay for it if you go through their school. So it's my understanding that the sleep apnea test is not yet a regulation, am I right? I am very concerned about this because I'm overweight and I'm going for my physical next week. Guess I'll find out next week. Damn one more thing to worry about.

Sleep Apnea:

A physical disorder in which you have pauses in your breathing, or take shallow breaths, during sleep. These pauses can last anywhere from a few seconds to a few minutes. Normal breathing will usually resume, sometimes with a loud choking sound or snort.

In obstructive sleep apnea, your airways become blocked or collapse during sleep, causing the pauses and shallow breathing.

It is a chronic condition that will require ongoing management. It affects about 18 million people in the U.S.

Ynkedad's Comment
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I'm a little confused. Recently there have been people on this site that are overweight and have passed their physical without a sleep test, also I have read posts that said that some companies will do a sleep test and pay for it if you go through their school.

That's where I was coming from. I thought if the company wanted me to take the test, due to my BMI , they'd cover the test and I'd be responsible for paying for the machine.

BMI:

Body mass index (BMI)

BMI is a formula that uses weight and height to estimate body fat. For most people, BMI provides a reasonable estimate of body fat. The BMI's biggest weakness is that it doesn't consider individual factors such as bone or muscle mass. BMI may:

  • Underestimate body fat for older adults or other people with low muscle mass
  • Overestimate body fat for people who are very muscular and physically fit

It's quite common, especially for men, to fall into the "overweight" category if you happen to be stronger than average. If you're pretty strong but in good shape then pay no attention.

Colleen W.'s Comment
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I quickly went through the regulations, as far as I can see sleep apnea is not yet a regulation but it has been proposed. So I guess it's up to the medical personal that does your physical. I think the company that are requiring a sleep test see that this is going to be a regulation and they're just getting a jump on this situation. I'm not against the sleep test but I can't afford it just now.

Sleep Apnea:

A physical disorder in which you have pauses in your breathing, or take shallow breaths, during sleep. These pauses can last anywhere from a few seconds to a few minutes. Normal breathing will usually resume, sometimes with a loud choking sound or snort.

In obstructive sleep apnea, your airways become blocked or collapse during sleep, causing the pauses and shallow breathing.

It is a chronic condition that will require ongoing management. It affects about 18 million people in the U.S.

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