What Is The Latest View On E-Logs?

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Brett Aquila's Comment
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I agree wholeheartedly about the 14 hour rule. I thought it was a terrible idea the first time I ever heard it. I don't know about you guys, but I don't do all of my work for the day in one long, continuous marathon. I'll get up at 3:00 a.m. on average and I'll get 10 hours of work in each day. But I'll squeeze in some meals, a few phone calls, a nap (or two) somewhere along the line, a little TV along the way, a little bit of reading, and maybe even just a few walks around the property playing with the dog and other animals. I don't get up at 3:00 a.m., work straight through until 5:00 p.m., and then get all of my rest and relaxation the next five hours before bed. Heck with that!

I didn't drive that way either. I rarely ever drove more than two or three hours without at least a quick break for a drink of water and some fresh air and I had no problem averaging about 3,000-3,200 miles per week. Of course I always had paper logs so even after the 14 hour rule came out I didn't have to bother with it. I could write down anything I wanted to. But breaking up your workday into shorter chunks with some breaks and relaxation along the way will ultimately be far safer and more productive than a 14 hour marathon every day.

But the people who make the rules tend to believe their way of doing things is the right way I guess so they expect everyone to work like robots for 14 hours straight every single day. That's odd because the reason there's an 8 hour workday is because of the millions of studies that have been done. They've already shown that productivity drops off dramatically after that much time. So how they figured it's safer to work 14 straight hours than it would be to allow people the flexibility they need to take naps and get through each day safely is beyond me. I guess the "sleep people" said we all need 8 straight hours of sleep everyday and they didn't know any other way to make that happen.

PJ's Comment
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I agree with all thats been said. if they would make it so the 14 stopped along with the 11 it would be better. we get stuck too many times in traffic or at shippers/receivers and i often get 3-4 hrs of rest while waiting.

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

Jon R.'s Comment
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After being in this industry for 34 yrs , then instructing for 5 yrs , and running for motor west in caldwell Id "casual " while @ Sage tech . CDL school , for 7 mos before lessors aquired them ) i always ran paper logs & taught HOS there @ Sage " ... then motor west ran people net . and then back to paper logs ...now I run casual for another trkng co. leased to D&D trans in gooding id. and the e-logs "caught me off guard " ( now this guy has 9 trucks w/ NO qualcom ) and 10 w/ qualcom ) so some of us "casual drivers (slip seat have to bounce back & forth ) ...I can see the good & bad " if the Co. has a Over booked load & they dont give enough time your screw'd , or if the qualcom screws up there is alot you have to do to defend your self for violations ...& I have come to the conclusion that the over booked loads through D& D are their problem ..and they can RE schedule ...and I'm NOT gonna hurry !

so the good & bad ....the e-logs you must run legally & must change duty electronically & must abide by 14 hr. rule , and 11 on 10 off ..and cannot do split sleeper ,,, and it better to communicate w/ them if load is gonna be late OR problems arise ... and get next load assignment ....

the bad for us old drivers is we cannot fudge our logs to get the load there ...( and dispatch should have figured the time required when booking the load ! ) a on going problem w/ all companies & dispatchers .....which was my pet peve years ago when hauling produce .hurry up & wait !!! with paper logs we could fudge paper ... today you go off duty on change status ,,if you've waited 8 hrs at shipper / receiver for load ( you stay off duty 2 more & get your next 14 hr. for days 24 clock )and get detention time . and take a long nap of course !

and they will continue to do this do this ...and they will lie to us ......!

the trick I learned really quick is you use off duty alot instead of sleeper @ shipper & recveiver ,,

my counsin worked as an instructor @ sage & works as an OTR driver @ CDN logistics ...and runs Qualcom ....he's my go to guy ...

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

OTR:

Over The Road

OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.

Dispatcher:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
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