Hazmat Details....

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guyjax(Guy Hodges)'s Comment
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Ultimately they took the hazmat off the load due to the screw up with the bills. Sure I had to sit for a while and I might have gotten away with taking the load but there was still a chance that I might have got caught. Not worth it.

We finally got rolling last night about 9pm and headed to a scale at a truck stop 2 miles away...... Ugh! 35780 on drives! Wtf! So we headed back to Conway. The night shift/early Monday morning shift came in to work Monday morning loads and the had to rework the entire trailer. Finally total legal around 1am this morning.

Just to make it clear. I was not refusing to haul the hazmat though I would have if Safety had not stepped in and said we could not take the load. See anything we haul hazmat we have to call in and get a "Safety Briefing" which at the time the company goes over the hazmat part and if legal gives us the ok to go.

After the hazmat screw up and then the over weight issue I imagine Conway central dispatch at HQ is having a few long talks today with the shift that loaded that trailer.

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

mountain girl's Comment
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Guyjax, in your experience and estimation, how much would the hazmat fine have cost you? Would an "incident" like being put out of service and fined have shown up on your DAC?

-mountain girl

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HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

guyjax(Guy Hodges)'s Comment
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Guyjax, in your experience and estimation, how much would the hazmat fine have cost you? Would an "incident" like being put out of service and fined have shown up on your DAC?

-mountain girl

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Not sure about fine. A normal ticket for whatever reason is between $200 and $300 depending on offense. I can only imagine that a ticket for hazmat would be ALOT higher. I like my money so I am not even gonna take the risk and even try to slide by. I have done the "outlaw" thing years ago when I first started driving when I was younger. I finally learned that you don't have to break the rules to make money. Doing my job completely legal will take me a lot further and make me more money down the line.

And with the recent changes to my particular fleet so far as pay I see no reason to risk being fired over a load that is illegal in the first place. Life is good with new pay plan for my fleet. Not company wide. Just my fleet. Will make a separate post concerning this change later on. It will be something some people might be interested in.

OOS is OOS no matter the reason so yes it would be reported.

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

Phil C.'s Comment
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So if a company wants you to drive what amounts to an illegal hazmat load say without ANY shipping papers and you refuse, what are the legal rights a driver has in that case?

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

mountain girl's Comment
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Oh yes. Your fleet and the details of your arrangement with Werner and the company you're pulling for (ABF?) were going to be my next inquiries. But no ... I wasn't really asking as though you would try to brake the rules, rather, I was interested in how expensive it is to not know your stuff and thereby miss the mistakes a shipper made. You know ... the cost of not knowing or not paying attention to detail.

Good stuff to know about the DAC , too. Thanks

-mountain girl

Shipper:

The customer who is shipping the freight. This is where the driver will pick up a load and then deliver it to the receiver or consignee.

DAC:

Drive-A-Check Report

A truck drivers DAC report will contain detailed information about their job history of the last 10 years as a CDL driver (as required by the DOT).

It may also contain your criminal history, drug test results, DOT infractions and accident history. The program is strictly voluntary from a company standpoint, but most of the medium-to-large carriers will participate.

Most trucking companies use DAC reports as part of their hiring and background check process. It is extremely important that drivers verify that the information contained in it is correct, and have it fixed if it's not.

OWI:

Operating While Intoxicated

guyjax(Guy Hodges)'s Comment
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So if a company wants you to drive what amounts to an illegal hazmat load say without ANY shipping papers and you refuse, what are the legal rights a driver has in that case?

Ultimately in the end it's your responsibility to say no. Late last night Conway pulled the hazmat off the trailer cause the paperwork was not right. It's was the dispatcher at the local level that wanted to send the load down the road and we were arguing against it.

If I would have choose to run with the load and had not caught the mistakes not only would my tail been in a crack but Werner's also.

The stuff on the High Road training on this website is very good and for those study for hazmat I can not stress this enough... Details. They are super important. Even more so for hazmat than normal Bills of Laden.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

Dispatcher:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

HOS:

Hours Of Service

HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

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