Log Book As Helper?
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If you're a CDL licensed driver, onboard a CMV operating in commercial transport - then you have to log - even if you're not driving (think of a team truck, where the driver is not driving, but can't get off the truck either). If it's a day cab without a sleeper - then it's likely going to be on Line 4.
Technically - ANY TIME YOU ARE WORKING - even not driving (even flipping burgers at a second job, at a training class, etc.), a CDL licensed driver that drives is supposed to log that time as on duty.
Obviously - if you didn't hold a CDL and were not legally able to drive the vehicle - you wouldn't be required to log.
So if you went out for 1/2 a day (4 hours) to help another driver, and then went to drive later - you would have burned 4 off your 14 for that day. Even "days off" or vacation are logged. DOT regs require commercial drivers to account for their time 24/7.
Rick
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Day Cab:
A tractor which does not have a sleeper berth attached to it. Normally used for local routes where drivers go home every night.
DOT:
Department Of Transportation
A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.
State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.
CMV:
Commercial Motor Vehicle
A CMV is a vehicle that is used as part of a business, is involved in interstate commerce, and may fit any of these descriptions:
- Weighs 10,001 pounds or more
- Has a gross vehicle weight rating or gross combination weight rating of 10,001 pounds or more
- Is designed or used to transport 16 or more passengers (including the driver) not for compensation
- Is designed or used to transport 9 or more passengers (including the driver) for compensation
- Is transporting hazardous materials in a quantity requiring placards
If you're a CDL licensed driver, onboard a CMV operating in commercial transport - then you have to log - even if you're not driving (think of a team truck, where the driver is not driving, but can't get off the truck either). If it's a day cab without a sleeper - then it's likely going to be on Line 4.
Technically - ANY TIME YOU ARE WORKING - even not driving (even flipping burgers at a second job, at a training class, etc.), a CDL licensed driver that drives is supposed to log that time as on duty.
Obviously - if you didn't hold a CDL and were not legally able to drive the vehicle - you wouldn't be required to log.
So if you went out for 1/2 a day (4 hours) to help another driver, and then went to drive later - you would have burned 4 off your 14 for that day. Even "days off" or vacation are logged. DOT regs require commercial drivers to account for their time 24/7.
Rick
rick pretty much nailed it there. If he's driving and our a passenger helping him out, then you should be on duty. only time you can log sb/off duty is if there's a sleeper on the truck.
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
Day Cab:
A tractor which does not have a sleeper berth attached to it. Normally used for local routes where drivers go home every night.
DOT:
Department Of Transportation
A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.
State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.
CMV:
Commercial Motor Vehicle
A CMV is a vehicle that is used as part of a business, is involved in interstate commerce, and may fit any of these descriptions:
- Weighs 10,001 pounds or more
- Has a gross vehicle weight rating or gross combination weight rating of 10,001 pounds or more
- Is designed or used to transport 16 or more passengers (including the driver) not for compensation
- Is designed or used to transport 9 or more passengers (including the driver) for compensation
- Is transporting hazardous materials in a quantity requiring placards
The guys above are right....you have to log it as "on duty, not driving". Because theoretically at any time you and your buddy could switch positions and you could be driving, or you could come in and drive the next day. So naturally you'd have to have the 7 previous days worth of logs with you anytime you're driving and those would be used for your recap to determine the hours you currently have available.
HOS:
Hours Of Service
HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.New Reply:
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Hey guys,
I'm a new driver who recently work started working locally delivering food products. That being said nine times out of 10 I drove the truck and keep a log book etc.
My question is if I'm not driving and just helping another driver for the day do I have to keep a log book? the other driver is convinced that I do but I'm not hundred percent sure.