Will A School Accept Me NOW??

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Tim S.'s Comment
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When was THE VERY LAST TIME you smoked? Chances are - you will still fail a hair screening. Now - hair screenings aren't accepted as "DOT Reportable" - but they are still considered a pre-employment-screening fail - and if you fail one - you fail.

So you want to make sure you can pass ANY DRUG SCREEN - before you consider applying seriously to anyone.

While it may vary from company to company - I would consider WHO you want to go with - contact their recruiter - and BE HONEST WITH THEM.

Tell them you failed a pre-employment screen for weed with CRST - don't make excuses, or tell them you were only an "occasional smoker". Just ask what you need to do, to qualify for training/employment with them.

Drug tests don't determine how much or how often - just that you WERE - within the limitations of the test itself.

You're just going to have to "roll the dice" and see what happens.

Rick

The very last time I smoked was at the very end of October, possibly the first few days of November but definitely no later than November 5th. I do believe I had already talked with Prime before, which is who I was thinking of going to school for since it is located in my home state and I absolutely HATE riding on the buses and I've also heard some good things about them.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

Christopher J.'s Comment
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To make you feel better hair test if your an infrequent smoker and have a clean system for a month straight would not even register I know this for a fact my (sister) does such testing so throw that 6 months BS out the window

Brett Aquila's Comment
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To make you feel better hair test if your an infrequent smoker and have a clean system for a month straight would not even register I know this for a fact my (sister) does such testing so throw that 6 months BS out the window

I thought the whole purpose of a hair test was because it went back further than a urine test? Why would they give a hair test if it isn't any better than a UA?

Tim S.'s Comment
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To make you feel better hair test if your an infrequent smoker and have a clean system for a month straight would not even register I know this for a fact my (sister) does such testing so throw that 6 months BS out the window

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I thought the whole purpose of a hair test was because it went back further than a urine test? Why would they give a hair test if it isn't any better than a UA?

I believe he's misinformed completely. I just searched this and found a site that says when hair tests are used that they will cut off 1.5 inches of hair from the root end and the rest is discarded. That 1.5 inches equates to about 3 months.

Rick S.'s Comment
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To make you feel better hair test if your an infrequent smoker and have a clean system for a month straight would not even register I know this for a fact my (sister) does such testing so throw that 6 months BS out the window

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I thought the whole purpose of a hair test was because it went back further than a urine test? Why would they give a hair test if it isn't any better than a UA?

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I believe he's misinformed completely. I just searched this and found a site that says when hair tests are used that they will cut off 1.5 inches of hair from the root end and the rest is discarded. That 1.5 inches equates to about 3 months.

Hair Testing Fact - looks like 3 months is the window, so you may be just about ready to pass one of these.

And since you weren't a licensed CDL driver already - I'm not 100% sure you're going to be required to do a SAP/Return-To-Work protocol - but the only way to find out - is to disclose, because you still DO NOT WANT TO LIE about the failure. Get caught lying, it's an automatic dismissal - which is almost as bad as a failed test - especially if you get caught lying about a failed test (if you get my drift).

Rick

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

SAP:

Substance Abuse Professional

The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.

Tim S.'s Comment
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Well I just thought I would update this, but I have no idea if this impacts the question originally posted.

I updated my profile over at everytruckjob and have been getting phone calls and emails left and right since then. The only thing is that NONE of these recruiters know the answer to my question either. I don't want to go through the admissions process and get to a school only to find out that I get sent home and have wasted money. But it's a good sign, right?

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Skar Hed's Comment
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I 'know someone' who failed a pre employment drug test, maybe even two, and was still able to get hired on at a large carrier within a year. If you still have the paperwork from your drug test, call the lab up and ask them if they reported their results. Just because you took a DOT drug test, unless you were employed and driving at the time it may not have been reported to anyone but the company you applied to.

DOT:

Department Of Transportation

A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.

State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.

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