Anyone Heard Of Lobos Interstate Services?

Wildhorsewrangler wrote this about Lobos:

It was not promised as advertised like for instance : Class room instructions , no certified instructor or instructors , it all self taught. They give you a CDL manual to study with that's all you get then after you pass the written exam you wait fourteen days. Then you go with a non certified instructor to learn the basic of backing up, offset backing, and parallel parking after that then go to the DOT test site and take their test. The first time I went I failed because wasn't properly taught those maneuvers the only thing that passed was my pretrip inspection. Now since passed everything this past Friday they want me to become a owner operator. How can I find a company that will help me with my advance training that I can trust? Please point me in the right direction.

I copied this from the diary forum and pasted to the Lobos thread...the saga continues.

Wildhorsewrangler wrote this about Lobos:

It was not promised as advertised like for instance : Class room instructions , no certified instructor or instructors , it all self taught. They give you a CDL manual to study with that's all you get then after you pass the written exam you wait fourteen days. Then you go with a non certified instructor to learn the basic of backing up, offset backing, and parallel parking after that then go to the DOT test site and take their test. The first time I went I failed because wasn't properly taught those maneuvers the only thing that passed was my pretrip inspection. Now since passed everything this past Friday they want me to become a owner operator. How can I find a company that will help me with my advance training that I can trust? Please point me in the right direction.

I copied this from the diary forum and pasted to the Lobos thread...the saga continues.

1. We do not advertise nor do we claim to have certified instructors of any kind. We advertise that we have an instructor with his CDL who will prepare you to take the CDL driving test in our truck and we will pay for the test fees. We are a course designed to help you obtain your CDL and on the road training to get you started with a CDL career. We give students the tools they need to succeed, but the student must do the work.

2. It is made very clear before a ticket is purchased for the student to travel out to our school that the written test preparation is largely self-study though we do have an instructor available to help with questions and parts where the student might be confused. Once they pass their written test, the DMV has a mandatory 2 week waiting period before the student can take their driving test. During that 2 weeks the student works with our instructor to prepare for that test and they have virtually unlimited practice time in our truck.

3. I see this is one of the students who just passed the first portion of their course and are going into the second portion (12 weeks of on the road training). I can tell you right now that they are not being made an owner operator at this point. They are in 12 weeks of hands on training with another driver working with us and our sister companies. Since they are going through our Vocation Payment Program they will be LATER set up as an owner operator utilizing the services of Lobos and our sister companies once their 12 weeks of training is over. This program delays their tuition costs so they haven't paid a dime on any of the services, food, lodging, travel, etc. they've received thus far. When they start making money through our owner-operator services then a portion of their weekly settlement will be applied towards their tuition and once that tuition is paid then their contract is fulfilled and they are free to pursue whatever path they wish.

And yes i pay very good attention to everybdetail to evoid being suckered by thieves!!! All the guys currently enrolled and staying in that apartment feel robbed and stuck some have no money to get home and some are stuck in that contract because they got swindled in.. one of the students there was calling his bank attempting to get the loan through them to get out of your 6500 fee.. if a man cant even look another man in the eyes and tell him **** straight hr is a *****.....

Above quote written by Anthony M on page 4.

Do I have a comment? Anthony's comment stands on it's own.

And yes i pay very good attention to everybdetail to evoid being suckered by thieves!!! All the guys currently enrolled and staying in that apartment feel robbed and stuck some have no money to get home and some are stuck in that contract because they got swindled in.. one of the students there was calling his bank attempting to get the loan through them to get out of your 6500 fee.. if a man cant even look another man in the eyes and tell him **** straight hr is a *****.....

Above quote written by Anthony M on page 4.

Do I have a comment? Anthony's comment stands on it's own.

The fact that the comment you quoted is barely legible English aside, it doesn't have anything to do with the comment that was just posted and addressed. Anthony M's comment was also from over 3 months ago and doesn't even say what we supposedly did wrong to cause this reaction. reposting that comment in response to what the thread is discussing now is just trolling.

At any rate, our website is very clear about what you can expect and what you will receive if you go through our program. It has been overhauled and updated since this thread was started to remove any confusing wording and has everything you need to know about the CDL program.

So basically. Student signs up, gets CDL , gets 12 weeks ots talking, then forced into a lease.

Got it.

Stupid fingers, otr training.

So basically. Student signs up, gets CDL , gets 12 weeks ots talking, then forced into a lease.

Got it.

It's an overly simplified description, but it would be student signs up, student pays for school or enrolls in financing program, student gets CDL, gets 12 weeks OTR training, if they do our financing program then they sign on with a lease and full support services until they pay off the school.

Nothing is forced. Either you pay for the services you're receiving upfront via cash or through a loan or you defer the cost and work through our owner-operator system (which includes a truck lease and full support services such as dispatching, brokering, accounting, safety, compliance, etc.) to pay it over time out of your weekly settlements.

So basically. Student signs up, gets CDL , gets 12 weeks ots talking, then forced into a lease.

Got it.

It's an overly simplified description, but it would be student signs up, student pays for school or enrolls in financing program, student gets CDL, gets 12 weeks OTR training, if they do our financing program then they sign on with a lease and full support services until they pay off the school.

Nothing is forced. Either you pay for the services you're receiving upfront via cash or through a loan or you defer the cost and work through our owner-operator system (which includes a truck lease and full support services such as dispatching, brokering, accounting, safety, compliance, etc.) to pay it over time out of your weekly settlements.

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Sorry hit enter before I added text. How long is the truck lease if the student chooses to go that route?

So here's a question? Given the amount of conversations on here regarding lease purchase opportunities and the high rate of failure. What does your company do specifically to ensure the success of your lease operators? I know companies like Schneider and Dart actually offer classes to help L/O understand and manage their business to put them on a path to success.

So here's a question? Given the amount of conversations on here regarding lease purchase opportunities and the high rate of failure. What does your company do specifically to ensure the success of your lease operators? I know companies like Schneider and Dart actually offer classes to help L/O understand and manage their business to put them on a path to success.

On the lease length I'd have to get an answer from our sister company on how exactly that end of it works to give you specific details, but I do know that, assuming the school debt is paid in full, you can give 2 weeks notice of termination of the contract and that will allow you to exit the contract without any penalty. You're not stuck in a long-term lease or anything like that. Our payment plan is based on how much the graduate makes each week so the payments scale with their settlements (this is to ensure that if there is a bad week the graduate isn't stuck with a huge payment without much income for that week), but if a student is driving well and applying themselves they should be able to pay back the school within 5 - 8 months.

On ensuring success, we are always looking for ways to help our guys succeed. We don't have formalized classes for guys that are not performing well, but that is something we're looking into. As of right now, we do try to help those guys out, though. We bring them back through our office so that we can sit with them and go over anything they're just not understanding or that they need help with. We also try to match up drivers based on the need of the truck. So, if we know we have a guy that is not growing and performing as well as he should, we try to get a stronger driver in with him so they can learn good habits from their co-driver and hopefully catch on with what they need to do to succeed.