Anyone Heard Of Lobos Interstate Services?

Regarding reimbursements for travel, please call in so that we can get the information we need to reimburse you. Saying "Reimburse me now" on a public forum does not give us any information we need to get the money to you. We can't send you money through this forum.

For those asking for information on how the four companies work together to provide all the services an owner operator needs, you can review our orientation videos here: https://youtu.be/t1qQawAfdaY?list=PLsaxzwdIP6h4DnlUfItlPYXTcs__UvtIk These are public videos, accessible to anyone, via Youtube.

The address is 1922 West 200 North, 140 S, Lindon, UT 84042. It's actually setup in Google to show the address if you search for us, the only problem is that they messed up on the name so it shows up when searching for Lobos Driving Academy instead of Lobos Interstate Services which is our actual name.

Here is our entire FAQ's page from our website: Do you have automatics or manuals?

Most of the trucks we work with are automatics.

Do you use paper or electronic logs?

We currently use paper logs

What happens if I don’t like my co-driver?

We do our best to place drivers together that we feel have a high probability of getting along and working well as a team, however, sometimes disagreements and issues can arise. We encourage our drivers to try to work things out but, in the event that you and your co-driver cannot work well together as a team, despite your best efforts, we will work on getting you both new co-drivers as quickly as is feasible.

What does a percent of the profit of the truck mean?

We take the total revenue of the truck, minus the truck’s expenses such as fuel, etc. and get the profit of the truck. The driver then makes 25% – 75% of that number depending on if they are an introductory, senior, or training driver.

What do you mean by owner operator?

We place most of our drivers with owner operators as co-drivers or set the driver up as an owner operator themselves. This means you will have your own, legal entity company that you own and drive for. However, our system is unique in that we handle all the hassles of setting up and maintaining that company for you. You worry about operating the truck, we take care of the rest!

How and when do I get paid?

Your settlement will be paid each week via an EFS card which is essentially an ATM card. You can use this card as an ATM card or setup direct deposit to your bank account through the card company.

Can I bring my spouse/pet/etc. with me on the truck?

No, unfortunately with a team driving arrangement there is not room for more people or pets in the truck. For solo drivers it may be an option but approval will be decided based on the situation and insurance requirements.

Do I have to sign a contract?

Yes you will have to sign a contract to work with our system. There will be contracts with Lobos as well as our sister companies Arrowhead and United Motor Carrier Cooperative. This covers your safety/compliance, dispatch, billing, factoring, accounting, and business services.

What if I want to stop working with you guys?

We require a minimum of 6 weeks working with us before a break of contract is allowed, however, after that time you can end the contract as long as at least 2 weeks notice is given. So, for example, you can drive for 6 weeks, then let us know before your 2 weeks home time that you do not wish to continue. This will ensure you do not incur an early termination fee and gives us time to make arrangements to replace you in the truck.

Will I really be able to make $1,200+ if I’m paying for all these services?

Yes, the income ranges quoted on the website are based on what you can expect to make AFTER expenses such as fuel, cost of services for dispatch, truck lease, etc.

Is this driving for a company or is it just O/O?

While it is an owner operator setup, the services we offer through Lobos and our sister companies combines many of the benefits you would see as a company driver with the income opportunities of an owner operator.

What if I get in an accident? How is that handled?

You are responsible for your actions behind the wheel, however, the trucks are insured and you will be working under your own LLC so your liability is limited. It would be much the same as if you were to get into an accident in your own car or a car you rent/lease. You will be responsible for deductibles but insurance is there to cover the rest.

I hope this answers some questions; I will post more information again when I have more time.

Regarding reimbursements for travel, please call in so that we can get the information we need to reimburse you. Saying "Reimburse me now" on a public forum does not give us any information we need to get the money to you. We can't send you money through this forum.

For those asking for information on how the four companies work together to provide all the services an owner operator needs, you can review our orientation videos here: https://youtu.be/t1qQawAfdaY?list=PLsaxzwdIP6h4DnlUfItlPYXTcs__UvtIk These are public videos, accessible to anyone, via Youtube.

The address is 1922 West 200 North, 140 S, Lindon, UT 84042. It's actually setup in Google to show the address if you search for us, the only problem is that they messed up on the name so it shows up when searching for Lobos Driving Academy instead of Lobos Interstate Services which is our actual name.

Here is our entire FAQ's page from our website: Do you have automatics or manuals?

Most of the trucks we work with are automatics.

Do you use paper or electronic logs?

We currently use paper logs

What happens if I don’t like my co-driver?

We do our best to place drivers together that we feel have a high probability of getting along and working well as a team, however, sometimes disagreements and issues can arise. We encourage our drivers to try to work things out but, in the event that you and your co-driver cannot work well together as a team, despite your best efforts, we will work on getting you both new co-drivers as quickly as is feasible.

What does a percent of the profit of the truck mean?

We take the total revenue of the truck, minus the truck’s expenses such as fuel, etc. and get the profit of the truck. The driver then makes 25% – 75% of that number depending on if they are an introductory, senior, or training driver.

What do you mean by owner operator?

We place most of our drivers with owner operators as co-drivers or set the driver up as an owner operator themselves. This means you will have your own, legal entity company that you own and drive for. However, our system is unique in that we handle all the hassles of setting up and maintaining that company for you. You worry about operating the truck, we take care of the rest!

How and when do I get paid?

Your settlement will be paid each week via an EFS card which is essentially an ATM card. You can use this card as an ATM card or setup direct deposit to your bank account through the card company.

Can I bring my spouse/pet/etc. with me on the truck?

No, unfortunately with a team driving arrangement there is not room for more people or pets in the truck. For solo drivers it may be an option but approval will be decided based on the situation and insurance requirements.

Do I have to sign a contract?

Yes you will have to sign a contract to work with our system. There will be contracts with Lobos as well as our sister companies Arrowhead and United Motor Carrier Cooperative. This covers your safety/compliance, dispatch, billing, factoring, accounting, and business services.

What if I want to stop working with you guys?

We require a minimum of 6 weeks working with us before a break of contract is allowed, however, after that time you can end the contract as long as at least 2 weeks notice is given. So, for example, you can drive for 6 weeks, then let us know before your 2 weeks home time that you do not wish to continue. This will ensure you do not incur an early termination fee and gives us time to make arrangements to replace you in the truck.

Will I really be able to make $1,200+ if I’m paying for all these services?

Yes, the income ranges quoted on the website are based on what you can expect to make AFTER expenses such as fuel, cost of services for dispatch, truck lease, etc.

Is this driving for a company or is it just O/O?

While it is an owner operator setup, the services we offer through Lobos and our sister companies combines many of the benefits you would see as a company driver with the income opportunities of an owner operator.

What if I get in an accident? How is that handled?

You are responsible for your actions behind the wheel, however, the trucks are insured and you will be working under your own LLC so your liability is limited. It would be much the same as if you were to get into an accident in your own car or a car you rent/lease. You will be responsible for deductibles but insurance is there to cover the rest.

I hope this answers some questions; I will post more information again when I have more time.

This sounds more like a broker service for owner ops not a company new drivers should be looking at.

Regarding reimbursements for travel, please call in so that we can get the information we need to reimburse you. Saying "Reimburse me now" on a public forum does not give us any information we need to get the money to you. We can't send you money through this forum.

For those asking for information on how the four companies work together to provide all the services an owner operator needs, you can review our orientation videos here: https://youtu.be/t1qQawAfdaY?list=PLsaxzwdIP6h4DnlUfItlPYXTcs__UvtIk These are public videos, accessible to anyone, via Youtube.

The address is 1922 West 200 North, 140 S, Lindon, UT 84042. It's actually setup in Google to show the address if you search for us, the only problem is that they messed up on the name so it shows up when searching for Lobos Driving Academy instead of Lobos Interstate Services which is our actual name.

Here is our entire FAQ's page from our website: Do you have automatics or manuals?

Most of the trucks we work with are automatics.

Do you use paper or electronic logs?

We currently use paper logs

What happens if I don’t like my co-driver?

We do our best to place drivers together that we feel have a high probability of getting along and working well as a team, however, sometimes disagreements and issues can arise. We encourage our drivers to try to work things out but, in the event that you and your co-driver cannot work well together as a team, despite your best efforts, we will work on getting you both new co-drivers as quickly as is feasible.

What does a percent of the profit of the truck mean?

We take the total revenue of the truck, minus the truck’s expenses such as fuel, etc. and get the profit of the truck. The driver then makes 25% – 75% of that number depending on if they are an introductory, senior, or training driver.

What do you mean by owner operator?

We place most of our drivers with owner operators as co-drivers or set the driver up as an owner operator themselves. This means you will have your own, legal entity company that you own and drive for. However, our system is unique in that we handle all the hassles of setting up and maintaining that company for you. You worry about operating the truck, we take care of the rest!

How and when do I get paid?

Your settlement will be paid each week via an EFS card which is essentially an ATM card. You can use this card as an ATM card or setup direct deposit to your bank account through the card company.

Can I bring my spouse/pet/etc. with me on the truck?

No, unfortunately with a team driving arrangement there is not room for more people or pets in the truck. For solo drivers it may be an option but approval will be decided based on the situation and insurance requirements.

Do I have to sign a contract?

Yes you will have to sign a contract to work with our system. There will be contracts with Lobos as well as our sister companies Arrowhead and United Motor Carrier Cooperative. This covers your safety/compliance, dispatch, billing, factoring, accounting, and business services.

What if I want to stop working with you guys?

We require a minimum of 6 weeks working with us before a break of contract is allowed, however, after that time you can end the contract as long as at least 2 weeks notice is given. So, for example, you can drive for 6 weeks, then let us know before your 2 weeks home time that you do not wish to continue. This will ensure you do not incur an early termination fee and gives us time to make arrangements to replace you in the truck.

Will I really be able to make $1,200+ if I’m paying for all these services?

Yes, the income ranges quoted on the website are based on what you can expect to make AFTER expenses such as fuel, cost of services for dispatch, truck lease, etc.

Is this driving for a company or is it just O/O?

While it is an owner operator setup, the services we offer through Lobos and our sister companies combines many of the benefits you would see as a company driver with the income opportunities of an owner operator.

What if I get in an accident? How is that handled?

You are responsible for your actions behind the wheel, however, the trucks are insured and you will be working under your own LLC so your liability is limited. It would be much the same as if you were to get into an accident in your own car or a car you rent/lease. You will be responsible for deductibles but insurance is there to cover the rest.

I hope this answers some questions; I will post more information again when I have more time.

This sounds more like a broker service for owner ops not a company new drivers should be looking at.

Jakebrake- you need to read the thread. There's a lot of new drivers that apply here.

I think it's obvious that Lobos has some issues. The very thing repeatedly not recommended for a rookie, "lease operator", is exactly what Lobos' requires from their drivers after training. The complaints are consistent and seem to identify a lack of consistent, complete, and clear communication resulting in the same level of misfortune. I have written several scathing replies in response to their business practices and the way they seem to chronically misinform, mislead, and at times mistreat their students and trainees. My last reply, they never responded to. So this time my approach is to focus on the members of this forum considering trucking as a career and not waste my time helping Lobos to see the err of their ways.

Fact is; it's up to you to be your own advocate. Their is no substitute or shortcut to this. Before making any decision on schools or companies, research and thoroughly understand your options. Before signing any contract (especially 51 pages of Lobos legal-eze) thoroughly review the contract in advance so you are never put in the situation of signing it under the slightest duress. Clearly understand your responsibilities and risks before signing anything. If something doesn't look right or not isn't clear, have a lawyer review it. If you are not given an opportunity to review a contract before showing up for orientation, proceed with caution, or move on. Accurate knowledge and patience is the best approach to protecting yourself from being a victim. Don't be the helpless sheep when there is a wolf lurking in the weeds.

For anyone who believes that Lobos is the only or even a viable option for hiring drivers with no experience and/or a criminal background, review the below links. As specified, there are many, many really good options to consider.

Trucking Company Reviews

Companies that hire drivers with past felonies

Dear Lobos,

I will be in contact with you tomorrow about reimbursing my travel. I spoke with a gentleman two days ago from your office and he said he would call me back. That has not happened.

I don't like badmouthing your establishment. I think that you could thrive in the business if you worked with drivers who had more experience especially if they were o/o. Your contract should be sent to all individuals interested in joining prior to getting to salt lake city. I'm sure there are a lot of odds and ends to be worked out but there is potential. I would never be an owner operator unless I had years of experience and a good amount of knowledge from my experience in Lindon Utah.

I've been getting more requests to share the contract which I don't want to do. I've also been informed with a news contact. That's going a little far. There isn't one single person in your company who I would single out as a "bad person" or "person I don't like". I feel as if your current "system" sucks and people are being mislead and forcing themselves to sign a contract with no viable options to go back home.

Speaking from my experience I'm sure you can learn a lot and maybe in the future make changes. Good luck and I mean it!

Charles Cressy

This was a quote from Lobos on page 4. Thank you Brett for not allowing editing. It is a pain at times but now I can see the value.

You were told on the phone that you would be making 25% of the profit of the truck for 3 - 6 weeks which is typically in the range of $300 - $600 and would be moved up to 50% after that period (typically $600 - $1200).

This right here is a huge red flag. As a matter of fact, there are many red flags from this thread alone. Does anyone actually understand what 25% of the profit to the truck actually means? Apparently Lobos does. If you drive 3k miles and then all of a sudden the truck needs a $3,000 repair you may not be paid at all for all of those miles. To me splitting the profits also means splitting the losses. It is ok to pay a driver a percentage, as a matter of fact, many companies do pay their drivers a percentage of the load. The thing is that they pay the driver 25% of the gross, not the profit.

New drivers, you can do better than this. The other thing is leasing. How is it that with all these leases you do not get to pick what truck you lease? How come it is the company that ALWAYS tells YOU what you are going to drive?

I could not stomach reading past page 6 so that is all I have to comment on.

Quoted from Lobos

You are responsible for your actions behind the wheel, however, the trucks are insured and you will be working under your own LLC so your liability is limited.

BULL****! I apologize for the censored word.

Your liability is NOT limited even if you were a full blown corporation. Yes your company can be sued because of your actions. What you are NOT telling people is that as the driver they can be sued personally along with their company because of their actions. It is the same thing if your company president was driving a truck. Lobos could be sued and he personally could be sued at the same time.

That is the reason that as an owner operator a LLC does absolutely no good. There is no protection unless an employee is driving the truck.

What you and your unscrupulous company is doing is preying on the ignorance of others.

Brett, I think that this thread needs to stay in place. I would like new drivers to find this thread in their research. While we don't agree on the owner operator issue, we do agree on the leasing issue. We have our own views but that is good for the site. I just do not want new drivers to get tangled in the Lobos web. Errol hit it right on early in the thread when he pointed out that Lobos is Spanish for wolves and just like wolves they are preying on the weak ones in the herd.

I have made contact with an investigative reporter from a SLC TV station. They need to talk to someone in Utah who has been victimized by Lobos. I have PM'd the three posters here who have Lobos experience but they have not replied.

This was a quote from Lobos on page 4. Thank you Brett for not allowing editing. It is a pain at times but now I can see the value.

You were told on the phone that you would be making 25% of the profit of the truck for 3 - 6 weeks which is typically in the range of $300 - $600 and would be moved up to 50% after that period (typically $600 - $1200).

This right here is a huge red flag. As a matter of fact, there are many red flags from this thread alone. Does anyone actually understand what 25% of the profit to the truck actually means? Apparently Lobos does. If you drive 3k miles and then all of a sudden the truck needs a $3,000 repair you may not be paid at all for all of those miles. To me splitting the profits also means splitting the losses. It is ok to pay a driver a percentage, as a matter of fact, many companies do pay their drivers a percentage of the load. The thing is that they pay the driver 25% of the gross, not the profit.

New drivers, you can do better than this. The other thing is leasing. How is it that with all these leases you do not get to pick what truck you lease? How come it is the company that ALWAYS tells YOU what you are going to drive?

I could not stomach reading past page 6 so that is all I have to comment on.

Pat- I am glad you wrote. It's interesting that Lobos is the opposite of TT. TT seeks to help, to encourage, and to educate people. Lobos seeks to get your signature on their 51 page contract. Then BAM, you've been con'd for $6500. And if you don't pay in a short time span, it's $10000- with the additional fee (probably a late fee+). And Lobos does not care.

The 25% for the first 6 weeks and 50% after that is old information. This was changed a while back to be just a flat 50% of the net profit for everyone. This means that after the truck rental, fuel, etc. you get the total amount of pay which is split between the two team drivers. If you have a $3,000 repair then that would mean you've probably messed up pretty bad and damaged the truck. However, that doesn't mean that you owe $3,000 right that moment. Part of being a member of the United Motor Carrier Cooperative is the ability to spread expenses like that out. They have a service called Fleet Protect that allows drivers to take big expenses like that and pay them off over time. Again, if it is something you do to damage the truck (e.g. it is your fault) then you're responsible for the expense, but if it is something that is regular maintenance, a defect, etc. then Direct Lease covers that cost. So to put that in a nutshell, if you don't wreck the truck then you have nothing to worry about.

Regarding the $6,500 tuition for the school, there is not a time limit on that. It should only take about 6 months to pay that off with the vocation payment program we have set up but if it takes longer you don't get slapped with a fee. There is an early termination fee if you skip out on your commitment, but that's not a late repayment fee. As long as you continue working with the four companies until the tuition is paid then you are not charged any penalty. The tuition can be paid through the vocation payment program, through cash, or through a third party lender. I really don't see how requiring someone to pay for their tuition is unreasonable. As for early termination fees for drivers, as long as you finish your initial 6 weeks and give 2 weeks notice of termination there is no penalty. We only charge fees when people breach their contract and we give people a very easy way to back out of the contract if they decide it's not for them.

For being called Trucker "Truth" there's been a lot of incorrect statements made about our program even since we've cleared up our website and made information more accessible via our website and youtube. All of the information about our system is on our website and youtube videos. Again, we are very clear in our pre-travel conversations that we only cover travel here, not travel home, we are clear that there is a contract to be signed, the minimum time you have to drive as a CDL driver, how to properly cancel the contract, etc. This system is not for everyone but for those who are willing to work hard it can be very rewarding. You get out of this what you put into it.