Well ill arrive at there tuesday so ill keep y'all posted. And thank you.
Hey y'all, so i made it to provo utah last Tuesday night i sat at the salt lake grey houd for 7 hours for a layover that took 30 min to get from salt lake to provo where lobo is located, i was picked up at they gas station in provo by another student who was there for 2 weeks cool dude, i figured i was going to be placed in a hotel but instead we arrived to an apartment complex, i thought that was pretty cool but when i got to the 2 bedroom apartment with 10 other guys staying in there i was a lil displeased... but that didn't bother me too much ive dealt with worse, so the next day around 2pm i finally get a ride with the head of the class guy to the office/school to talk to the manager, first of all before i headed out there my recruiter Matt said, i would train for 2 to 6 weeks with a trainer then after if i was successful i would get my own truck and start making 25% of the load, for the first 6 months then 50% after. They never said anything about a contract.. so i get to talking and asking questions as im doing so he starts to get nervous, would not look at me well he was speaking to me the entire conversation is being held with the door open with a few students sitting behind us able to hear everything which i was definitely ok with but as i continued to ask questions he didn't want the others to hear as he was pretty nervous so he closed the door.. So we get down to business i find out there is a 2 year contract 5k back out fee.. i would be an owner operator starting my own company leasing a truck from them with another guy so team driver which i did not want.. they wabted me to pay for any repairs the truck may have needed tires ect.... i feel its all a big scam.... there school is definitely a joke and should never be honored by anyone there students were taking there tests within 2 weeks didn't know **** about the trucks most had to retest the training truck had the worst tires on it back window was completely spider webbed it was definitely an unsafe truck... it would never pass any inspection!! And they charge $6500 for that ****y class!!!!! there instructor is an old student who just got his cdl 3 months ago and has never been over the road!!! I went to Rocky mountain located in Albuquerque NM that was a 160 hour school that i paid $2725.. even with great trucks great instructors and tought me well... i have no anger towards them they are definitely running a good scam that is hooking the worst of the worst and desperate drivers and students.... so technically lobo is not a trucking company they provide u with insurance a beat up truck than your paying 400 a week and another guy in the same truck with u doing the same paying and 35% of the fuel... all in all they are deceiving lying scammers...... btw they made me find my own ride to the airport which i paid for out of my ouwn pocket and tried charging me $150 f i r 3 nights of staying at the apartment which i told them to **** off... yes there going to reply and try saying i was a punk or all this bs but i am a good man trying to find a career and make some money.. yes i know there will always be bs with any job and i can deal with that but not scams!!!! I have a family to feed!!!!
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.
An owner-operator is a driver who either owns or leases the truck they are driving. A self-employed driver.
Hey y'all, so i made it to provo utah last Tuesday night...
Hey Anthony, This is Matthew, the recruiter you spoke with on the phone. I am sorry you had a layover in Salt Lake City; unfortunately that is something Greyhound is in control of and we cannot change that. I would like to address some of the things you mentioned here as a lot of the numbers you have given are exaggerated or just plain inaccurate. The apartment we have for our students is a 3 bedroom apartment and we do not go above the maximum capacity which is 8. You were told on the phone that you would be making 25% of the profit of the truck for 3 - 6 weeks which is typically in the range of $300 - $600 and would be moved up to 50% after that period (typically $600 - $1200). I'm not sure why you're talking about training and 6 month periods. We do indeed have a two year contract that all of our guys sign which does have an early termination fee. However, there are also terms in there which allow you to end the contract early if you give two weeks notice. To the best of my knowledge that is a pretty standard deal and I don't think 2 weeks notice is unreasonable. I've seen Matt go over paperwork before and I find it hard to believe that he wouldn't look you in the eyes or acted shifty as you're describing. The way our system works does indeed put you as an owner operator or driving for one and you are responsible for certain -repairs- to the truck. In other words, if you damage the truck in some way then yes, you are responsible for the damages. If you blow out a tire or hit something, that's on you. There is insurance involved and other things, I know, which I'm sure Matt went over with you. As for the school, you weren't attending the school so I'm not sure how you would be able to speak much about it. I can tell you that I have been here for about 5 months and the instructor has been here that entire time so he didn't just get his CDL 3 months ago. Regarding our trucks, all of the trucks we use for our over the road drivers are relatively new (within the past 1 - 3 years). I've seen the truck that they use out in the yard for practice and it's nothing like what you described and I know the tires were recently replaced. It's clear to me from your description of our system and services that you were not understanding the orientation you went through. The orientation is summarized in our recruiting calls so I'm not sure why you were surprised by the terms when you arrived. Obviously we can't cover everything in a 15 - 30 minute phone call but I do cover quite a bit. That being said, since you came out we have improved our pre-travel process to make 100% sure that everyone is 100% on the same page. We've prepared written summaries of what we talk about on the phone and before we book travel we go over that summary on the phone and email it to our students and drivers coming in to sign before they come out. This way there can be no confusion or mis-remembering or problems. I do apologize that this was not yet in place when you came out. We went over these things on the phone, but perhaps having the written copy of it would have helped improve understanding before we bought you a bus ticket out to our office. I am sorry we were not able to work with you. We had things prepared to get you out to your co-driver as soon as you got your paper work done and were looking forward to seeing your driving skills out on the road. However, we also understand that it is ultimately up to you whether or not you want to sign the contract. I do remember the day you were here and I thought you were very respectful and professional. I also recall you being offered a ride to our local public transit train station where you could take a train all the way to the airport (the train costs about $5 for that trip). Again, I'm sorry we couldn't work together and that you somehow felt mislead by what was discussed on the phone before you came out. Again, what I say on the phone is a summary of what they go over with you in orientation so I'm not sure where the disconnect happened, but either way I do apologize. We lost out on the cost of the bus ticket and time put into going over everything with you but that happens. That's part of the reason why we've tried to improve our recruiting materials so that there is no room for misinterpretation. It not only helps save time for everyone and avoid issues, but it also saves us money. It's in our best interests to make sure people know what they're signing up for before they get to our office, otherwise we lose money on the bus ticket, the time it took to procure leads, time spent explaining, etc. So again, I'm sorry we were not able to work with you but I do wish you all the best in your career and job searches.
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.
An owner-operator is a driver who either owns or leases the truck they are driving. A self-employed driver.
An identity problem:
Hey Anthony, This is Matthew, the recruiter you spoke with on the phone.
Then further down this post:
I've seen Matt go over paperwork before ...
There is insurance involved and other things, I know, which I'm sure Matt went over with you.
... and more.
Are "Matthew" and "Matt" the same person?
Popcorn, please. Extra large.
An identity problem:
Hey Anthony, This is Matthew, the recruiter you spoke with on the phone.Then further down this post:
I've seen Matt go over paperwork before ...There is insurance involved and other things, I know, which I'm sure Matt went over with you.... and more.
Are "Matthew" and "Matt" the same person?
Popcorn, please. Extra large.
Lol on the popcorn comment. We get a lot of really great people coming through our office and using our programs and systems, but every once in a while you'll get a really loud complainer that will misunderstand something or just not pay attention and think they're being lied to or something.
I'm Matthew, I'm the primary recruiter at Lobos and there is also a Matt that works here who has a different job and he usually is the one to go over contracts and such with the new guys.
It was all a lie im not a complainer whats so ever... this company is honestly a joke with no communication between eachother or there recruits, the funny thing is i have pictures on the way of your trucks so that will be exposed... your instructor is a newbie driver just as i am and we both know that i had spoke to him well i was there cause he was begging me to stay... i also have an email from matt and not once was i told about a contract until my arrival..
And yes i pay very good attention to everybdetail to evoid being suckered by thieves!!! All the guys currently enrolled and staying in that apartment feel robbed and stuck some have no money to get home and some are stuck in that contract because they got swindled in.. one of the students there was calling his bank attempting to get the loan through them to get out of your 6500 fee.. if a man cant even look another man in the eyes and tell him **** straight hr is a *****.....
Anthony, At Trucking Truth, we do not take "reviews" and horror stories very seriously. (But wait! Hold on to the next paragraph, Anthony!) "Popcorn" is a term we use to say here's an entertaining negative story. Your story sounds like those negative horror stories.
However, TT members have done a bit of research on Lobo's school and I believe there's a bit of truth in what you went through. No, I haven't been to Lobo's operation, and you are the first to say you've been to that school. I, personally, would not be surprised to hear you feel ripped off, both in what happened to you and through the business terms that Matt talked about.
Your situation & experience matches what I expect to happen at Lobo's operation.
It was all a lie im not a complainer whats so ever... this company is honestly a joke with no communication between eachother or there recruits, the funny thing is i have pictures on the way of your trucks so that will be exposed... your instructor is a newbie driver just as i am and we both know that i had spoke to him well i was there cause he was begging me to stay... i also have an email from matt and not once was i told about a contract until my arrival..
It's pretty common practice to have a contract to drive a truck. I'm pretty sure I talked about the paperwork and orientation on the phone; if I didn't mention explicitly that there was a contract you'd have to sign on the phone then I apologize. As for the instructor I do remember you talking to him but he isn't a new driver. As I said, he's been an instructor here since before I worked here and I started 5 months ago. I do recall him and others in the company going over the contract in detail with you when you got here, making sure you understood everything about it, and yes, trying to change your mind about not signing on with us, but no one begged you to stay. We actually did not have a high demand for drivers at the time so we were able to get someone else to take that spot pretty quickly. But yes, of course we tried to convince you to stay as we had just spent $200 to get you out to our office. So obviously we didn't want to lose that investment but we have no need to beg people to sign on with us.
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That's great, Tony! Many people have come to Trucking Truth to get help with hiring issues, and we've helped to get things straightened out. And if Lobo can get you rolling and paid decently who's to argue with that! Several in the Trucking Truth leadership seem a bit "iffy" about Lobo's program, but if you can prove them wrong, that's fine with everybody here.
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OTR:
Over The Road
OTR driving normally means you'll be hauling freight to various customers throughout your company's hauling region. It often entails being gone from home for two to three weeks at a time.