What Company To Choose For Paid Cdl Training

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guyjax(Guy Hodges)'s Comment
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Hazmat ,tanker, doubles and triples

HAZMAT:

Hazardous Materials

Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations

Doubles:

Refers to pulling two trailers at the same time, otherwise known as "pups" or "pup trailers" because they're only about 28 feet long. However there are some states that allow doubles that are each 48 feet in length.

Starcar's Comment
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You might be diggin' a big hole for yourself, and handin' the shovel to someone who may just cover you up. These company sponsored schools, and companies taking on new drivers with no experience have a long list of folks waiting to get a foot in the door. Having said that, if you come along and want to "negotiate" anything other than what color your sheets are, you may get nothing but a in your face NO. You are of no worth to them without atleast a years driving. THATS when you start looking for who you want to drive for and THATS when you may want to negotiate. But seriously, you need to pick your schooling, then do what it takes to get your year in,. It won't do you much good to negotiate down to 8 months, since most companies won't take you on until you have a year in. This industry is run by insurance companies.....and we all know you can't negotiate with them....

Brett Aquila's Comment
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I agree 100% with Starcar - you're almost certainly wasting your time trying to negotiate, and almost certainly hurting your cause.

These trucking companies that train drivers bring in as many people as possible and keep the best. Around half of the drivers they bring in don't make it through the program for one reason or another. They're looking for people who would love the opportunity to get their CDL training and get their career underway with little or no money out of pocket. They're already taking the risk by bringing you in sight-unseen off the street and investing the time and money it takes to get you out there making money. And then, on top of that, you're going to push for even better terms?

I wouldn't do that. They're gonna toss your application in the trash. Their terms are their terms and that's about it. And worst of all, trying to push for a shorter contract period is really going to get your app tossed in the trash. The very first thing you're going to ask a company that's willing to take the risk on you by investing their time and money to train you is "How quickly can I leave you in the dust and go look for greener pastures?" Probably not the best strategy.

That first year is all about learning your new career. Before you're going to get the great miles, best freight, and best treatment is to prove yourself to be an awesome driver and develop a good relationship with a solid dispatcher. Well that takes time. A lot more than a few months.

And besides, where are you looking to go in such a hurry? You're not going to even know enough about the industry in the first few months to know what kind of job you'd like or know what companies would suit you better than the one you're at.

Your rookie year you need to keep your eyes and ears open, ask a lot of questions, and go with the flow. Here's an article I wrote that will help you understand the situation a bit better:

New Drivers: Beware Of Rocking The Boat

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dispatcher:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

Dm:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Christopher Y.'s Comment
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Awesome advice yeah I decided on millis and am talking with them right now if all goes well i'll be in ohio on july 8th. I like their incentives, home time, bonuses and pay so... I also didn't try to negotiate anything figure the easiest way to get your miles **** on which means your pay will suck is to rat on someone make it a hard time for your dispatcher or even start things within office by crying about things so I took your guys advice and didn't "Rock the Boat" and decided just to let it be and take the opportunity at hand. I believe that is why there is so many cry baby stories from people on the net maybe they ****ed off their dispatcher by whining all the time or did something else, hoping millis is an i'll scratch your back you scratch mine kinda place.

wish me luck hope I get accepted if I do I will definitely post on here since there is very little posts about millis and their schooling on here.

Dispatcher:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
Brett Aquila's Comment
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Best of luck!

I believe that is why there is so many cry baby stories from people on the net maybe they ****ed off their dispatcher by whining all the time or did something else, hoping millis is an i'll scratch your back you scratch mine kinda place.

That's exactly right. The overwhelming majority of the whiners brought their problems on themselves.

As far as Millis being that kind of place...it's not "the company" that will treat you well or not, it's going to be your dispatcher above all else.

When people are new to trucking, they're always looking for that mythical "good company" and try to avoid the "bad companies". What they don't understand is that your dispatcher pretty much is the company for a driver.

The quality of your dispatcher and your relationship with him/her is going to make or break you out there. You could work at Millis or anywhere else and if you had 3 different dispatchers it would be like working for 3 different companies. Even if you're a safe, hard working, dependable driver with a great attitude your experience at the company will change every time you change dispatchers. Some will keep you rolling, some may not. Some will treat you with respect and try to keep you happy, some won't. Some answer their messages quickly and get things done quickly, some won't. Just like any other profession on Earth, some dispatchers are good at their job and care about doing it well, others not so much.

But if you're a hard working, safe, reliable driver and you establish a great reputation with a company you'll almost always be given the opportunity to change dispatchers if the one you have isn't getting the job done. And in an instant it can be a whole new world for you.

But the bottom line for any driver is if you're not working hard and getting the job done day in and day out you're not going to get the miles, the home time, and the favors that the top-tier drivers are getting. That's how it works in trucking.

This is the single most difficult point to help people understand about the trucking industry. It breaks my heart to see how so many people obsess about picking the right company. They pour over every last opinion they can find for months on end trying to find that "great company" and I can't get the idea across to them that they're completely wasting their time. And I mean completely. Instead, they should be preparing themselves for the start of their trucking career with our trucker's career guide and preparing for their CDL permit exam with our High Road Training Program. That will have a far more profound affect on your career than wasting several months at TheTruckersReport hoping to find good information about trucking companies. Now I'm not saying you've been doing this Christopher. But a lot of people do.

So approach this with the understanding that you are going to be the one who determines the level of happiness and success you find in the trucking industry, not the company you choose to work for. A great driver can find good miles and fair treatment at pretty much any company in the nation. A lousy driver will be miserable no matter where they work.

You have to pay your dues. Put in the time it takes to prove yourself as an awesome driver and you'll find that any company will keep you rolling and treat you decent as long as you have a solid dispatcher to take care of you.

CDL:

Commercial Driver's License (CDL)

A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:

  • Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
  • Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
  • Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.

Dispatcher:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.

OOS:

When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.

EPU:

Electric Auxiliary Power Units

Electric APUs have started gaining acceptance. These electric APUs use battery packs instead of the diesel engine on traditional APUs as a source of power. The APU's battery pack is charged when the truck is in motion. When the truck is idle, the stored energy in the battery pack is then used to power an air conditioner, heater, and other devices

Old School's Comment
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Best of luck to ya Christopher! That post was a welcome sight, I was afraid you might be headed in the wrong direction, but you got some great advice here and you took it - you'll be glad you did. Just as an example I want to tell you about my experience. I went to work for a company that I couldn't find much good said about it on the net, and their starting pay seemed kind of low to me. But I ended up with a really good dispatcher , and I'm giving it all I've got. I'm making good money, and couldn't be happier with my job. I've been comparing notes with a friend that I made at an orientation with another company where I was trying to get employed. Even though his starting pay was considerably higher than mine we've discovered that I'm turning a lot more miles and making more money because I've got a great dispatcher.

Keep a good attitude and a strong work ethic, be willing to be creative and work out your own problems on the road without calling and complaining to your dispatcher every time something doesn't work out just right, and you'll do really well at this job.

Keep us posted on how things are going.good-luck.gif

Dispatcher:

Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager

The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
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