11 Hrs Driving Is Enough, But The Co Wants More

after driving for 11hrsw I feel that that's enough work but the co wants me to do 3 hrs off duty not driving with no xtra pay. I find this is an unreasonable request. unless they are willing to pay an hourly rate.that 3hrs is mine and should garner the time. does anyone else have this problem?

Its not only wrong, its ILLEGAL....If you are on paper longs, you better be a magician to make em look right. Now days, when you cross a scale into a state, the DOT can, and DOES call the other state, to see when you last checked in with them. THEN they match that to your log book.....you get the picture ?? they have done that to us numerous times. WY is really good for it, as is CA. So if the co wants you to run over hours, you need to either convince them that you run legal, or you go run for someone else. We run flatbed, and we don't tarp, or untarp at drops for free. It costs us time on our driving clock, so we get paid for it. Sometims a co will see how far they can push you. Dig in your heels, bow your neck, and tell em you don't run illegal, period.

I'm not naming names or companies, but I have a buddy that drives for a company that expects him to break the law. He routinely runs well over 11 hours a day, sometimes 15+. The company rewards him with home time every weekend so he's ok with it. They've been doing it for a long time now and haven't been caught yet. I'm starting to think this goes on way more than we think out there on paper logs.

Do not do it! No way! Not even for hourly pay. You will be the one getting the points on your license. You are the one going to be getting the ticket. And once you do, I bet that if you'll ask them to pay it they'll tell you no. I'm all for doing favors and I always do, but this crosses the line. They are not above federal law.

Do not violate for anyone. The rules are rules for a reason even if some of them suck lol

It sounds to me like the company wants him to put in a full, 14 hour allowable on duty day with 11 hours of it being driving and the rest whatever. I don't know if that's illegal, but I certainly would not like it one bit if it was me in his place. However, it sounds unrealistic anyway in the real world (my world of driving, at least) of driving. About every day, most if not all of my 14 hour clock is already used up due to non-driving duties, e.g., Pre-Trip/Post-Trip, fueling, customer check-in/out, loading, unloading, breaks, stopping early enough to find a parking spot for the 10 hr break, etc. In my brief experience OTR , I don't see how anyone can realistically be driving flatout for 11 hours and, if one did, he or she would be in no shape to work another 3 hrs doing whatever the company wants. His is not a good situation at all.

Atx, he's already drove 11 hours. So his clock is now gone and anything further would be illegal. His company wants him to drive 14 hours when the maximum is 11. It's not really about the 14 hour. I know I wouldn't do it. I drove like a freak for a tight load and I did 9 hours and 45 minutes of NONSTOP 62mph driving. Not even a **** break. And I was still late for the load. If I drove for another 5 hours that day I would surely pass out on the wheel.

"Not even a **** break"

Bathroom break*

If/when the you have an accident the company will play dumb. Look out for yourself. If you get caught breaking thr law, or god forbid, an accident its all YOUR fault. Dont comprimise yourself.

Now the confusion I have is "What do they want you to do for three hours? Driving, or something else?"

Obviously once your 11 hours of drive time is used up for the 14 hour period you can not drive legally at that point - and you should not drive illegally. But if they're asking you to do other things like dock work or washing trucks or whatever - that's legal. Now whether you decide to do it or not without pay is up to you.

One time I drove dump truck and the company required us to show up 45 minutes before it was time to head out, check the oil, and sit through a meeting. Then we had to drive to the job site and we didn't get paid for any of that. We only got paid while we were at the job site. Then, after signing out at the job site we stopped getting paid again but still had to drive back to the yard (sometimes 30-45 minutes one way), fuel the truck, wash the truck, and turn in our paperwork - all without getting paid.

Well, I did that job for about 2 months and went elsewhere.

There isn't much you can do about a company's culture. If they're going to try to squeeze everything they can out of you, then that's how they do things. You have to decide if it's worth it to you or not.