Dangerous HOS Issue

Is this one of the problems being looked into by the law makers?

I haven't heard anyone mention rescinding the 14 hour rule. Of course they temporarily rescinded the rule requiring two periods between 1:00 a.m. and 5:00 a.m. for a 34 hour restart but that's the only change of any sort I'm aware of right now.

You'll find that lawmakers are perpetually talking about the rules to make it appear to the American public that they're on top of it. Every time there's a major truck wreck or something that puts trucking in the news someone releases some form of proposal to limit trucks, it gets voted down, and everyone forgets the whole thing.

So don't hold your breath when it comes to logbook rule changes. There has only been a handful of changes in the past 25 years. I see no end in site for this abysmal 14 hour rule. I'd love to see it end immediately, but I have little hope.

I don't see them repealing it either but I've heard that there are law makers reviewing it along with some members of the FMCSA and law enforcement to figure it how to make it more practical and fair along with ensuring overall safety. When those changes might come about, who knows. The upside is that at least it's being looked at and the powers that be are aware that is flawed and I'm sure they're also looking at how to make changes and keep the potential new system from being abused.

What about starting some sort of petition? Or maybe someone could create a form letter which truckers can send to their lawmakers explaining the problems with the 14-hour rule and suggesting alternatives? We could organize a facebook page. We could get people to call their congressmen. The only way lawmakers will realize there is an issue is if people in the industry speak up and let them know about it. I'm only a newbie but I'm sure if enough veteran drivers made their thoughts known, things might start to change.

What about starting some sort of petition? Or maybe someone could create a form letter which truckers can send to their lawmakers explaining the problems with the 14-hour rule and suggesting alternatives? We could organize a facebook page. We could get people to call their congressmen. The only way lawmakers will realize there is an issue is if people in the industry speak up and let them know about it. I'm only a newbie but I'm sure if enough veteran drivers made their thoughts known, things might start to change.

Just did some quick searching and found an old petition on Change.org.... a whole whopping 10 yes TEN people signed it.

Heres the link... Change.Org petition to abolish the 14 Hour & Mandatory 30 Minute Break Rules

If only we could figure out a way to unify the brotherhood again, as a group Truck Drivers could be an unstoppable force. so the question is how to get these guys to quit bickering with each other and acting like big babies and start acting like the professionals this industry so desperately needs?

I believe the Hours of Service regulations are not Laws by lawmakers. They are regulations by the FMCSA. The FMCSA relies on research, etc., to come up with these things. A petition should be addressed to them.

I dare anyone ot open the regs to a random page and read three paragraphs. You'll get an idea of just how detailed & explicit the regs are.

I dare anyone to open the regs to a random page and read three paragraphs. You'll get an idea of just how detailed & explicit the regs are.

I was reading about a group that's trying to establish requirements for CDL training. In their first meeting they focused on defining what a "school" is. The second meeting they defined what a "new CDL holder" is. Seriously, I'm not making this up. There are people that sit around for hours talking about this stuff. It might take them a year to define "school", "driver", and "new CDL holder" but by God they won't quit having meetings until they pull it off.

Flying the first airplane ever was an amazing accomplishment. Landing on the moon was pretty awesome. And someday maybe we'll move something at the speed of light which will be incredible. But it all pales in comparison to sitting around a meeting room defining what a "school" is. I mean, that deserves a ticker tape parade in New York. Congratulations to all involved!

Brett, that sounds like a lot of " jobs" out there. Got to come up with something so whomever signs their money check thinks they are doing a service.

Makes me literally laugh out loud...

Next they'll assign a committee to determine the definition of "driver".

Had a conversation with one of my Instructors who is an 'advisor' to the state on CDL matters. He is proposing that if you fail one of the 3 points of your required testing, you'll have to re-test all the points. So if you pass pretrip, and pass your DOT maneuvers, but fail the road trip-then you'll have to re-test on what you already passed. And he is recommending a 72 hour waiting period between re-tests. Now-who's interests are being served with these recommendations?

... Now-who's interests are being served with these recommendations?

Follow the money?

Is this one of the problems being looked into by the law makers?

I haven't heard anyone mention rescinding the 14 hour rule. Of course they temporarily rescinded the rule requiring two periods between 1:00 a.m. and 5:00 a.m. for a 34 hour restart but that's the only change of any sort I'm aware of right now.

You'll find that lawmakers are perpetually talking about the rules to make it appear to the American public that they're on top of it. Every time there's a major truck wreck or something that puts trucking in the news someone releases some form of proposal to limit trucks, it gets voted down, and everyone forgets the whole thing.

So don't hold your breath when it comes to logbook rule changes. There has only been a handful of changes in the past 25 years. I see no end in site for this abysmal 14 hour rule. I'd love to see it end immediately, but I have little hope.

WOW!!! Looks like there's only one group of people who can change this..........not mentioning who!!!