Drug Testing Before Trucking School
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That's what I'm thinking that in the end of May beginning of June. I should be clean by than at least a UA. I am regreating my choice of smoking weed BIG TIME. :(
Yea. As suggested: Study for your permit, get it from the state (always a BIG plus for companies I've talked to; We had 2 at CRST.. Ahead by 1 week!), and study some more! :)
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CRST? How did they do the Test Hair or UA. I am acutally Pre-Approved for Mid June. And I have the app I love it!
I am deff looking into doing a clinic hair test, I wanna get on the road ASAP! I know I messed up. But its not going to let my Mistake stop me.
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CRST does a UA drug test.
They'll send you to a school that they contract with (I went to Continental). That school does the drug test (UA only) and physical (eye sight, ear hearing, blood pressure cuff). You'll sit in class and take tests (permit, air brakes, general knowledge, air brakes, combination, special requirements, and one other I think). If / When you pass them all ("Phase I" and "Phase II"): You'll go to the range for 2 weeks (driving day-to-day). After you feel ready: You'll be taken to the DPS to test out, and acquire your CDL A.
Then you're sent to a CRST terminal (of your choosing). From there: You fill out an official contract with CRST (during orientation). You'll take a series of simple written tests (Hazmat required by federal law; Although it's not your endorsement Hazmat), including a simple driving exam (simple, short run, just to see if you can drive without crashing or hitting a curb with the trailer).
I'm happy with CRST so far. Not so much with Continental. But that's personal, and I let my recruiter know about it, and the school itself. :)
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
HAZMAT:
Hazardous Materials
Explosive, flammable, poisonous or otherwise potentially dangerous cargo. Large amounts of especially hazardous cargo are required to be placarded under HAZMAT regulations
Terminal:
A facility where trucking companies operate out of, or their "home base" if you will. A lot of major companies have multiple terminals around the country which usually consist of the main office building, a drop lot for trailers, and sometimes a repair shop and wash facilities.
SAP:
Substance Abuse Professional
The Substance Abuse Professional (SAP) is a person who evaluates employees who have violated a DOT drug and alcohol program regulation and makes recommendations concerning education, treatment, follow-up testing, and aftercare.
OOS:
When a violation by either a driver or company is confirmed, an out-of-service order removes either the driver or the vehicle from the roadway until the violation is corrected.
I'm confused I was under the impression that urine is 30 day back test and hair folicle go's back 90 days . Can anyone clarify these with any certainty . Or just about or maybe this many days .
If it go's back 6 months 180 days Then this may be helpful to know but it all seems very speculative on a thing that could affect your entire truck ing career .
Please attempt to clarify
I'm confused I was under the impression that urine is 30 day back test and hair folicle go's back 90 days . Can anyone clarify these with any certainty . Or just about or maybe this many days .
If it go's back 6 months 180 days Then this may be helpful to know but it all seems very speculative on a thing that could affect your entire truck ing career .
Please attempt to clarify
Drug testing is a science, and relies on chemistry & biology.
There is no magic number. There are a lot of factors (including statistical probability). Your fat content, metabolism, genetics (luck!), diet, quantity & "quality" of drug, the testing facilities tools & technicians (technology.. Luck again). This is not an all inclusive list. Just a reality check.
I've personally known persons who have 20% body fat, mild activity/metabolism, smoke weed daily (including up to the previous 24hrs of test), and show a false negative on a UA drug test.
And for the record: A hair folicile test has a chance of going back ~90 days. A small chance. In that small chance: The idea that the exact hair they test has it, is even smaller.
Nobody seems to have the ability to do research, mathematics, or any kind of thinking these days. Hair folicle tests are not magic. It may potentially be more accurate (after collecting millions of hair folicle samples) than a UA; But there is never a guarantee it'll be 100% accurate.
Ergo: FALSE positive/negative.
Sort of off-topic but: My recruiter is awesome. And this is just for anyone who is wondering if you REALLY CAN get hired with recent speeding tickets:
I assume previous 'positive' drug tests are acceptable too.
I'm confused I was under the impression that urine is 30 day back test and hair folicle go's back 90 days . Can anyone clarify these with any certainty . Or just about or maybe this many days .
If it go's back 6 months 180 days Then this may be helpful to know but it all seems very speculative on a thing that could affect your entire truck ing career .
Please attempt to clarify
Drug testing is a science, and relies on chemistry & biology.
There is no magic number. There are a lot of factors (including statistical probability). Your fat content, metabolism, genetics (luck!), diet, quantity & "quality" of drug, the testing facilities tools & technicians (technology.. Luck again). This is not an all inclusive list. Just a reality check.
I've personally known persons who have 20% body fat, mild activity/metabolism, smoke weed daily (including up to the previous 24hrs of test), and show a false negative on a UA drug test.
And for the record: A hair folicile test has a chance of going back ~90 days. A small chance. In that small chance: The idea that the exact hair they test has it, is even smaller.
Nobody seems to have the ability to do research, mathematics, or any kind of thinking these days. Hair folicle tests are not magic. It may potentially be more accurate (after collecting millions of hair folicle samples) than a UA; But there is never a guarantee it'll be 100% accurate.
I concur if your a heavy smoker your screwed but hair folicile are not that accurate DOT just does UA light smokers out of your system in 3-5 days personally dont even chance it with a cdl or trying to get one good luck
Ergo: FALSE positive/negative.
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
DOT:
Department Of Transportation
A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.
State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.
Keep your head up and keep up the good fight, you'll be out and rolling in no time.
I see what you did there...
While you'll never pass a follicle test by the end of May you should be good to go for a UA if you weren't smoking 24/7 for the weeks you were recently smoking.... 28-30 days is the pretty common time span one needs to pass a UA depending on body fat content as that's what the THC adheres to... The over the counter UA's are hit or miss but I wouldn't recommend against them before you knew you were going to be tested. Good luck to you...
I know you're talking the finer points of drug tests here, but what's up with Swift? I did school in December, and have been driving solo since February.
Swift uses the UA
Last day of swift orientation tomorrow and they just do UA.
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DOT may only require urine, but some companies have more strict rules than that, which is why they tend to do hair since it goes back approx. 6 months as opposed to 90 days or less with urine
DOT:
Department Of Transportation
A department of the federal executive branch responsible for the national highways and for railroad and airline safety. It also manages Amtrak, the national railroad system, and the Coast Guard.
State and Federal DOT Officers are responsible for commercial vehicle enforcement. "The truck police" you could call them.
Prehire:
What Exactly Is A Pre-Hire Letter?
Pre-hire letters are acceptance letters from trucking companies to students, or even potential students, to verify placement. The trucking companies are saying in writing that the student, or potential student, appears to meet the company's minimum hiring requirements and is welcome to attend their orientation at the company’s expense once he or she graduates from truck driving school and has their CDL in hand.
We have an excellent article that will help you Understand The Pre-Hire Process.
A Pre-Hire Letter Is Not A Guarantee Of Employment
The people that receive a pre-hire letter are people who meet the company's minimum hiring requirements, but it is not an employment contract. It is an invitation to orientation, and the orientation itself is a prerequisite to employment.
During the orientation you will get a physical, drug screen, and background check done. These and other qualifications must be met before someone in orientation is officially hired.
Prehires:
What Exactly Is A Pre-Hire Letter?
Pre-hire letters are acceptance letters from trucking companies to students, or even potential students, to verify placement. The trucking companies are saying in writing that the student, or potential student, appears to meet the company's minimum hiring requirements and is welcome to attend their orientation at the company’s expense once he or she graduates from truck driving school and has their CDL in hand.
We have an excellent article that will help you Understand The Pre-Hire Process.
A Pre-Hire Letter Is Not A Guarantee Of Employment
The people that receive a pre-hire letter are people who meet the company's minimum hiring requirements, but it is not an employment contract. It is an invitation to orientation, and the orientation itself is a prerequisite to employment.
During the orientation you will get a physical, drug screen, and background check done. These and other qualifications must be met before someone in orientation is officially hired.