Oh How I Despise Team Driving
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I didn't complain about that to the people in charge. It was about the unprofessional psd phase. I don't want to slander someone online so I won't go into much detail about it but the behavior was unnaceptable and the leadership here agreed.
I'm not gonna be able to tnt with him and definetry don't want to. I'm just curious as to how I'm suppose to learn all of this in 2-4 hours on a practice pad when I was put for 3 weeks and practiced maybe 1 hour backing total. This experience is rough and I'm going to see It through but I don't want to be sent home defeated after everything I've put into this.
Your not going to learn it in 2 to 4 hours. It's not your fault that he didn't have you backing during psd, so if he has to wait a couple days while you learn backing, that isn't your fault and lesson learned for him. He made money each week you were on the truck with him during psd. He will make money after you get your cdl too and I almost want to say he doesn't have a truck payment the week you test. I spent 4 days practicing backing on the pad after we came back to test. Since I picked everything else up quickly he thought I'd learn backing 1 day on the pad. Very wrong. I practiced all day 4 days straight and still didn't feel confident. We pushed our test date back 4 times. Alley docking is very hard at first. I luckily didn't have to do that on the test day. It's either parallel or alley dock. My trainer had an awesome formula for parallel so thank god that is what I got. If you have to wait 3 days then test don't worry about it. I made 600 I think for passing. See how much you get paid for trifecting. I think he'll make 1200 if you trifect. Don't let him rush you. That was the beginning of our downfall in regard to my instructor and i. When we got to the pad and practiced backing. It's extremely frustrating and it's one of those things that there is only so much your instructor can do and teach because it requires practice practice practice until it clicks. Take your time and as many days you want. I was terrible and it took me 4 days on the pad until I tested. I passed on the first try though.
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
HOS:
Hours Of Service
HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.PSD:
Prime Student Driver
Prime Inc has a CDL training program and the first phase is referred to as PSD. You'll get your permit and then 10,000 miles of on the road instruction.
The following is from Prime's website:
Prime’s PSD begins with you obtaining your CDL permit. Then you’ll go on the road with a certified CDL instructor for no less than 75 hours of one-on-one behind the wheel training. After training, you’ll return to Prime’s corporate headquarters in Springfield, Missouri, for final CDL state testing and your CDL license.
Obtain CDL Permit / 4 Days
- Enter program, study and test for Missouri CDL permit.
- Start driving/training at Prime Training Center in Springfield, Missouri.
- Work toward 40,000 training dispatched miles (minimum) with food allowance while without CDL (Food allowance is paid back with future earnings).
On-the-Road Instruction / 10,000 Miles
- Train with experienced certified CDL instructor for 3-4 weeks in a real world environment.
- Get 75 hours of behind-the-wheel time with one-on-one student/instructor ratio.
- Earn 10,000 miles toward total 40,000 miles needed.
TNT:
Trainer-N-Trainee
Prime Inc has their own CDL training program and it's divided into two phases - PSD and TNT.
The PSD (Prime Student Driver) phase is where you'll get your permit and then go on the road for 10,000 miles with a trainer. When you come back you'll get your CDL license and enter the TNT phase.
The TNT phase is the second phase of training where you'll go on the road with an experienced driver for 30,000 miles of team driving. You'll receive 14¢ per mile ($700 per week guaranteed) during this phase. Once you're finished with TNT training you will be assigned a truck to run solo.
I'll say one more thing too. Prime is very cool. They gave an older real nice 5 tries on the backing test then he finally passed. You won't be sent home if you show improvement. If you fail a test, they'll tell what you should have done afterward and what they want you to do. The next day just show them you learned those things. That is if you even fail at all. You'll be fine man. It is very hard. This is a very hard ordeal. I'll tell you what though, when I passed and got that cdl , I was on a high for days. It feels good and a huge weight is taken off your shoulders. It's an awesome feeling
CDL:
Commercial Driver's License (CDL)
A CDL is required to drive any of the following vehicles:
- Any combination of vehicles with a gross combined weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 or more pounds, providing the gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of the vehicle being towed is in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001 or more pounds, or any such vehicle towing another not in excess of 10,000 pounds.
- Any vehicle, regardless of size, designed to transport 16 or more persons, including the driver.
- Any vehicle required by federal regulations to be placarded while transporting hazardous materials.
HOS:
Hours Of Service
HOS refers to the logbook hours of service regulations.
At this point he stormed off the practice pad and said he's done. He got pretty heated real quickly so we had to go talk to a dispatcher. Looks like I have to talk to someone else tomorrow. I am unable to learn from someone who is constantly angry and heated. I'm not sure what else to do and I feel disastrously defeated now.
Gonna keep trying but thus guy is unable to teach while he's in a agitated state. I don't know how anyone can teach while in a agitated state ....
Dispatcher:
Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager
The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.
At this point he stormed off the practice pad and said he's done. He got pretty heated real quickly so we had to go talk to a dispatcher. Looks like I have to talk to someone else tomorrow. I am unable to learn from someone who is constantly angry and heated. I'm not sure what else to do and I feel disastrously defeated now.
Gonna keep trying but thus guy is unable to teach while he's in a agitated state. I don't know how anyone can teach while in a agitated state ....
There were days I'd feel the same. Maybe not disastrously defeated, but definitely humbled and slightly discouraged. Nothing wrong with feeling some humility. It'll make you a better student. Your not the first person that had to switch trainers during psd trust me on that. Your almost there man. A lot closer then what you think. Just keep practicing and it'll click
Dispatcher:
Dispatcher, Fleet Manager, Driver Manager
The primary person a driver communicates with at his/her company. A dispatcher can play many roles, depending on the company's structure. Dispatchers may assign freight, file requests for home time, relay messages between the driver and management, inform customer service of any delays, change appointment times, and report information to the load planners.PSD:
Prime Student Driver
Prime Inc has a CDL training program and the first phase is referred to as PSD. You'll get your permit and then 10,000 miles of on the road instruction.
The following is from Prime's website:
Prime’s PSD begins with you obtaining your CDL permit. Then you’ll go on the road with a certified CDL instructor for no less than 75 hours of one-on-one behind the wheel training. After training, you’ll return to Prime’s corporate headquarters in Springfield, Missouri, for final CDL state testing and your CDL license.
Obtain CDL Permit / 4 Days
- Enter program, study and test for Missouri CDL permit.
- Start driving/training at Prime Training Center in Springfield, Missouri.
- Work toward 40,000 training dispatched miles (minimum) with food allowance while without CDL (Food allowance is paid back with future earnings).
On-the-Road Instruction / 10,000 Miles
- Train with experienced certified CDL instructor for 3-4 weeks in a real world environment.
- Get 75 hours of behind-the-wheel time with one-on-one student/instructor ratio.
- Earn 10,000 miles toward total 40,000 miles needed.
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I didn't complain about that to the people in charge. It was about the unprofessional psd phase. I don't want to slander someone online so I won't go into much detail about it but the behavior was unnaceptable and the leadership here agreed.
I'm not gonna be able to tnt with him and definetry don't want to. I'm just curious as to how I'm suppose to learn all of this in 2-4 hours on a practice pad when I was put for 3 weeks and practiced maybe 1 hour backing total. This experience is rough and I'm going to see It through but I don't want to be sent home defeated after everything I've put into this.
PSD:
Prime Student Driver
Prime Inc has a CDL training program and the first phase is referred to as PSD. You'll get your permit and then 10,000 miles of on the road instruction.
The following is from Prime's website:
Prime’s PSD begins with you obtaining your CDL permit. Then you’ll go on the road with a certified CDL instructor for no less than 75 hours of one-on-one behind the wheel training. After training, you’ll return to Prime’s corporate headquarters in Springfield, Missouri, for final CDL state testing and your CDL license.
Obtain CDL Permit / 4 Days
On-the-Road Instruction / 10,000 Miles
TNT:
Trainer-N-Trainee
Prime Inc has their own CDL training program and it's divided into two phases - PSD and TNT.
The PSD (Prime Student Driver) phase is where you'll get your permit and then go on the road for 10,000 miles with a trainer. When you come back you'll get your CDL license and enter the TNT phase.
The TNT phase is the second phase of training where you'll go on the road with an experienced driver for 30,000 miles of team driving. You'll receive 14¢ per mile ($700 per week guaranteed) during this phase. Once you're finished with TNT training you will be assigned a truck to run solo.